+ 1 First Cycle!! Please stop by and offer advice/opinion!
Hey bros -- new around here, but thanks for having me on!
I would really appreciate any help, opinions, or advise from experienced users on this issue.
(Background Info)
Age - 25
Height - 6'1
Weight - 190
BodyFat - 12%
Experience - 3 Years
This is to be my first cycle with 'real' steroids, however I have used PHs such as H-drol and M-drol in the past.
FIRST CYCLE PLAN:
Weeks 1-12: Test Enanthate 500mg/wk (Pinning 250mg twice a week Mon/Thurs)
Weeks 1-4: Dianabol 25mg/ED (Taken 1hr Prior to Workout)
Weeks 1-13*: HCG 500iu/wk (Pinning 250iu twice a week Mon/Thurs)
Weeks 1-13: Arimidex .5mg ED
Weeks 1-13: Avodart (Dutasteride) .5mg ED
PCT:
Weeks 14-17: Clomid 100/100/50/50
Weeks 14-17: Nolvad 40/40/20/20
*Creatine and Natty Test Booster
Essentially I am running Test-E at 500mg/wk split into two doses a week for 12 weeks, which will be kicked off by four weeks of Dbol 25mg taken every day one hour before working out.
To battle sides on cycle I plan to use the HCG 500iu/wk pinned 2x/week, Arimidex .5mg ED, and Avodart .5mg ED for hair loss.
*I plan to use the HCG in week 13, last HCG dose will be 5 days prior to my 4 week PCT (Weeks 14-17)
My PCT will be a 4 week combo of Clomid and Nolva 100/100/50/50 and 40/40/20/20 respectively.
My Questions:
What would be a better AI for this cycle, Arimidex or Aromasin? What would be the best dosage of this AI? Why?
I understand DBol is widely considered to be most effective when blood plasma levels are consistent, or when the Dbol is spread out effectively throughout the day, however, I have also encountered many that swear by taking it in a single dose before working out. I think I will do it prior to my workout because I believe it will be less stressful on the liver to only have to deal with it for 5-6 hours a day rather than throughout the day. Thoughts?
Is HCG 500iu/wk split between two 250iu doses enough to keep me from avoiding full natural test production shutdown?
Those are just some questions I had from the top of my head. Please, please, please provide insight, opinions, and advise on this first cycle preparation. I would really appreciate it!
Thanks --
JJ
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Awesome, will go with the Bayer and will run Aromasin 6.25 to 12mg eod.
*Last thing! Is it too much to do the 12 wks of test instead of the most common 10wk first cycle? Is the Risk/Reward ratio benefitial for these extra 2 weeks?
dbolzGo as you feel bro, when you are about week 9 see if you feel burned out. Recommended is 12 for optimal gains since its a long ester. Always go by what you feel. Any more than 14 gains slow a bit.
OK - Thanks
Adex or Aromasin?
also
Thoughts on 12 wks of test vs 10?
I am getting Bayer Schering Test E, is it worth the extra price?
dbolzAromasin start at 6.25mg eod and adjust as you see sides. Have a read on high/low estrogen sides in men online so you know what to look for. Stick to 12 and yes legit schering is one of the best you can find, pay the extra
Updated Plan:
Wk 1-12: Test E 500mg/wk
Wk 1-13 Arimidex.5mg/ed
PCT
Wk 14-17: Clomid 100/100/50/50
Wk 14-17 Nolva 40/40/20/20
*Should I use Aromasin instead of Arimidex? If so, what dosage, and how long?
Now your talking! Good choice... I run Adex .5 mg EOD through to my PCT but everyone will have some advice you will have to pick through it and make you own choice that works for your body
Nice i like it, imo only use adex like jon says i am a believer in use only if needed,people that start using ai from day one on first cycle do not learn to "feel"what the test is doing.. if and only if you introduce another drug you should "feel" the difference right away,this is why i preach one compound at once so that people can learn what each one does, saves coming back with another post saying i ran 8 compounds and having problems HELP if you dont know which one started the problem neither will we.
bro, at 6'1" 190, you will NOT need to run a-dex ED. I would only run .25 a-dex if you see any negative estro-sides. diet and water will keep that bloat in check
OK - Thanks
Adex or Aromasin?
dbolzJust drop the adex to 0.25mg eod for the first few weeks and then up to 0.5mg eod for the rest of the cycle. Looks spot on otherwise. If you are worried about your hair never touch the dbols
Thanks Guys!
Jon and dbolz have it right for ya. The .25 eod only IF you're having issues. Keep it simple...get huge!
AnonYou could get away with no hcg and duder shit. And if its your first cycle you could go test alone with anti estro and prpper pct and gain alot. Should wait on dbols bro for another cycle. Keep it simple and run just test if you must use gear
Read forums for fist cycle. Answers all. Half what ya lusted isnt needed