posted Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:10
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do you need to run insulin with hgh?
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I been reading allot about people taking insulin with hgh. But my question is do you have to take it. I really don't want to mess with it if I don't have too
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AnonEB had some good points. Keep in mind that HGH is something that works over time. Be careful with just the straight T4 as it has a tendency to cause the thyroid to shut down over time. You'll eventually want to use something that is a dessicated thyroid like armour or thyroid s. Additionally, unless you make it big and are one of the elite pro's it is completely unnecessary for anyone to run insulin with their H. What dosage are you running the H at because unless you are running it about 5 ius and cycling it with your gear cyle, 100mcg is very high. You should be looking for signs of hyperthyroidism to ensure that you are not getting too much.
I run 10ius a day and I have done the temp check thing every morning and check throughout the day and everything is fine. I heard t4 is the best to run with the hgh
AnonI run armour thyroid it is a combination of T (1 thru 4) plus calcitonin.. running straight t4 tends to have a suppression effect over time on your natty thyroid production.. I love body building but have no desire to fuck up the rest of my life ... you start playing around with the endocrine system you're asking for troubles.. just my two cents .. so you won't find me running insulin EVER..
Were can I get armour at? And how much do you run of that?
Let me tell you that with all factors being absolutely perfect for the HGH use (testosterone levels, thyroid, insulin levels and IGF-1), your body will be able to use 6 - 8 IUs maximum per day for muscle buildup.
Anything above that is a waste and will only burn fat. And this is with insulin being used in conjuction. For a beginner I would recommend 2 IUs per day to get a great effect.
With HGH you benefit more from prolonged use, rather than short use at high dosages. I would really suggest you drop the dose to 6 IU max, because excessive HGH may grow organs (bloated stomachs many pros suffer from) as well as cause an enlargement of jaw and cheek bones especially.
Thanks for the info and I do run t4 with it 100mcg ed. But the tren ill do in cycles I heard its bad to stay on tren longer then 8 Weeks.
No you don't have to, but in order to get MAXIMUM results from the HGH it is needed. Unless you plan to compete I would definitely advise against it.
In order to get a good effect it would be enough to stack tren and test with it, and leave the insulin out.
Additionally, it may be wise to take thyroid hormones with the HGH, because it does tend to slow the thyroid down after a while. Also be aware that HGH has a negativ effect on insulin-sensitivity, which means that prolonged use could cause diabetes.
Let me explain real quick what makes HGH so great: HGH causes hyperplasia, which is the splitting of muscle fibre into multiple fibres. Hence, there are more muscle fibers present that have the potential to grow, which will make you blast through your genetic limit without a problem.
In addition, HGH does tend to lean you out, more so even with tren added to it.