yea bro horribly bad. i dont believe its test e at all because i had been using androboys test e for the past year. i ordered 8 test e, got 4 blue top unlabeled, 4 white top unlabeled. i assumed right away the blue tops were prop judging from recent received items people posted. so i shot 3ml of the white top unlabeled supposed test e in my quad.. worst pip ive ever had, plus redness and swelling like ive never seen. i think its either prop also or bold ace. had shot 3ml of his his test e many times before, there was no error on my injection protocol either. so then i shot 1ml.. still more pip than i ever had with 3ml of his previous test e. im definitely upset
I didnt receive any test e but i did receive my order last month.The bold ace he sent was fine when i got it and now it is crashed,shards all over the bottom.I received the prop 200 which has blue caps and when i received it was nice and clear.Now it is cloudy and has hormone swirls in it.This leads me to believe it was a rush brew kinda issue.As these things most likely would of happened if it were sitting around for a few weeks long before shipment.Also the smell from this order was a lot stronger than previous ones.One of the prop 200 has either a hair or fiber floating in it and another has a small black speck in it.Makes me question the integrity of the filtering process.Im surely going to run it through some whatmans to clean it up,but then who really knows what hormones are inside if any at all ?
If it didnt have any hormone at all in it, then what would the shards and the swirls that appeared over time be?
i bought some tren a lil while back from a source. It was fine when i got it, months later it crashed and had swirls in it. Doesnt bother me at all because i KNOW theres hormone in it. Seeing is believing! Lol
I should of mentioned i was referring to some of the other compounds i received from him which are not crashed and or cloudy.ie mast prop,npp,bold cyp,mast e.I understand your point about the shards of course it could be crashed hormone.But for me just because there is white swirls in it doesnt tell me what hormone it is, until its either tested or used.White swirls could be baby powder or inositol or whatever.I dont know as i didnt make it.Never had this problem with andy before so im not bashing,just explaining from what i have seen personally.For me just because i see what appears to be hormone in it doesnt help much when you are trying to plan a proper cycle.If test e is really test prop and your pinning it as test e should be then your fucked.If the npp or bold cyp is really just GSO then youve wasted several weeks out of what should have been a kick ass cycle.
Ive never had anything of andys burn or have pip or swelling after pinning.so hearing some of these issues from other members concerns me.
I know im a long winded sob lol,but my point was even when you make gear safe to use you cant really trust a label, and broscience intuition to really know whats exactly inside
the vial.
I agree with you 100% on that bud.Thats all my opinion was just a guess based on limited observation.I just hope safety hasnt been compromised and andy is free from the hands of oppression.Hopefully at some point the dust from the shitstorm will settle and an answer will be found.will that ever happen?Your guess is as good as mine bud.
before andy disappeared i got a response from him about it. he had trusted his shipper when he told me it was definitely test E. after getting rid of that shipper he told me he doesnt believe it anymore and said its most likely prop 100 or 200. said he would make it right if i hit him up in a few days but still waiting to find out what happened to him
I shot 1ml in left quad mon and that nite it had swollen with redness and I had flu like symtoms that nite till the next morning, then wed I shot in right glut and same thing happened but not as bad, and Friday was into the left glut and it was also high pip, I have two jugs of the shit and don't believe its test e at all. ive never had this problem with test e only prop and that was only my first few runs.
5 to 6 days..... not fun, the flu has seemed to pass, but still 12 hours after my shot the pip is there and heat at the site, (first wk)along with flu like symptoms for the rest of that day and usually I wake up feeling better flu wise but still pip is killer.
yeah im wondering wtf as well. i got bloods done on it, everyone not very impressed.. but yeah just as you said.. redness ,not really swelling alot anymore .. it did for the first few weeks.. but baddd muscle tightness.. cant bend my leg for several days.
Also I noticed that it burns the whole time going in.. wtf?? not horrible but definitely noticeable
I received most of my order 2 weeks ago and after I PM'd Andy he told me that he fired his shipper and give him a few days to fix the problem. I haven't heard anything from him since! I haven't been on here posting anything negative and the reason is because it's a strong possibility that Andy got locked up! Look at the line of work he is in! I've ordered from Andy many times before and he always addressed any issues I may have had so this is unlike him. Bottom line, I hope the brotha is ok!
Andy did mention a stock for September, but lets think about something. Ill say upfront no horse in the race or excuse for no communication. But we all know his shipper was having problems. One can imagine your shipper, (some sources might use one or a few) probably has a large percentage of your finished product. Andy says fuck you your fired send these packs out. Guy can be Iike fuck you. You fire me im keeping all your shit and just run off with a insane amount of gear to do whatever with. Just a scenario ive been thinking of. Guy could be bitter he wasn't gonna get free gear and momey etc. And ran off with all his gear. And if that happened now andy has to take a loss on tens of thousands. And rebrew all kinds of oils and orals an find a new shipper he can trust. Hopefully he does the September restock and get everyone squared away.
That sounds very possible. But the fact that Andy hasn't read his now 20+ PMs or replied to any emails nor has he posted a statement on this page makes me think that he is somewhere that he can't. Because it's no excuse for not letting his customers know what's going on whether we like the reason or not UNLESS he is locked up and physically can't!
Over a month without a word. Last reply was three weeks ago, asking if I got a package. I've been emailing weekly, as I know that shit happens, but this is just ludicrous. Not cool at all, especially for a US domestic source, got ripped off for $340.
Has anyone actually gotten a pack in the last 2 weeks? If so, when was it postmarked. It would be nice to know if he is still actually around and just wayyyy behind.
For all of you doubting cloudy tren stop, unless you go get it tested prove me wrong. But as stated before it's the only tren ever to give my left nipple to lactate out of my nipple. I cleared it up with caber. 100Mg eod tren a cloudy is working great so far.
Andy's sus has got me Hornier then the top source on here.
I can't speak for the npp or deca but for those others I can attest there great
Cool man thanks I'm running the cloudy tren now also with good results.
I have to heat it in near boiling water and swirl vigorously before each use (that way the hormone goes back into suspension)....but....for 100 bucks a pop at 55ml I'll take it.
Also using his dbol right now....I love this stuff.....throw in some Nolvadex everyday and almost zero bloat.....
See I'm not doing the heat part but I'm sure that's a very smart thing to do maybe that's why I think it's so great cuz I'm really sucking up more hormone per mL lol
Tabs..... check out the recent pictures I posted it a few days back.
You know Andy I counted them and there were like 70 transformer head tabs instead of 50 stated on the package..lol...if he's gone I'm gonna miss him....he sent me some ABombs with my last order....i haven't used them though I will have to let you know.
yea bro horribly bad. i dont believe its test e at all because i had been using androboys test e for the past year. i ordered 8 test e, got 4 blue top unlabeled, 4 white top unlabeled. i assumed right away the blue tops were prop judging from recent received items people posted. so i shot 3ml of the white top unlabeled supposed test e in my quad.. worst pip ive ever had, plus redness and swelling like ive never seen. i think its either prop also or bold ace. had shot 3ml of his his test e many times before, there was no error on my injection protocol either. so then i shot 1ml.. still more pip than i ever had with 3ml of his previous test e. im definitely upset
i started wondering myself if maybe it was prop or something lol .
I didnt receive any test e but i did receive my order last month.The bold ace he sent was fine when i got it and now it is crashed,shards all over the bottom.I received the prop 200 which has blue caps and when i received it was nice and clear.Now it is cloudy and has hormone swirls in it.This leads me to believe it was a rush brew kinda issue.As these things most likely would of happened if it were sitting around for a few weeks long before shipment.Also the smell from this order was a lot stronger than previous ones.One of the prop 200 has either a hair or fiber floating in it and another has a small black speck in it.Makes me question the integrity of the filtering process.Im surely going to run it through some whatmans to clean it up,but then who really knows what hormones are inside if any at all ?
If it didnt have any hormone at all in it, then what would the shards and the swirls that appeared over time be?
i bought some tren a lil while back from a source. It was fine when i got it, months later it crashed and had swirls in it. Doesnt bother me at all because i KNOW theres hormone in it. Seeing is believing! Lol
I should of mentioned i was referring to some of the other compounds i received from him which are not crashed and or cloudy.ie mast prop,npp,bold cyp,mast e.I understand your point about the shards of course it could be crashed hormone.But for me just because there is white swirls in it doesnt tell me what hormone it is, until its either tested or used.White swirls could be baby powder or inositol or whatever.I dont know as i didnt make it.Never had this problem with andy before so im not bashing,just explaining from what i have seen personally.For me just because i see what appears to be hormone in it doesnt help much when you are trying to plan a proper cycle.If test e is really test prop and your pinning it as test e should be then your fucked.If the npp or bold cyp is really just GSO then youve wasted several weeks out of what should have been a kick ass cycle.
Ive never had anything of andys burn or have pip or swelling after pinning.so hearing some of these issues from other members concerns me.
I know im a long winded sob lol,but my point was even when you make gear safe to use you cant really trust a label, and broscience intuition to really know whats exactly inside
the vial.
Guess it comes down to whether you trust your source. Not real sure, only guessing, but im not seeing much trust here these days. Lol
I agree with you 100% on that bud.Thats all my opinion was just a guess based on limited observation.I just hope safety hasnt been compromised and andy is free from the hands of oppression.Hopefully at some point the dust from the shitstorm will settle and an answer will be found.will that ever happen?Your guess is as good as mine bud.
White tops in my experience have always been prop...if it's prop 200
3 mls= oooch......if it was 3 MLS of bold ace you probably would need morphine.
I had PMed him and asked just to be sure a while back and he said it was indeed Test E [white tops] but yea..
before andy disappeared i got a response from him about it. he had trusted his shipper when he told me it was definitely test E. after getting rid of that shipper he told me he doesnt believe it anymore and said its most likely prop 100 or 200. said he would make it right if i hit him up in a few days but still waiting to find out what happened to him
I shot 1ml in left quad mon and that nite it had swollen with redness and I had flu like symtoms that nite till the next morning, then wed I shot in right glut and same thing happened but not as bad, and Friday was into the left glut and it was also high pip, I have two jugs of the shit and don't believe its test e at all. ive never had this problem with test e only prop and that was only my first few runs.
how long does it give you pip?
5 to 6 days..... not fun, the flu has seemed to pass, but still 12 hours after my shot the pip is there and heat at the site, (first wk)along with flu like symptoms for the rest of that day and usually I wake up feeling better flu wise but still pip is killer.
Loose_CannonMy prop 200s had blue tops
Haha mine are all white....but they are Salien labs.....never order prop after he switched to intra - inject pharma or whatever he was calling it.
Loose_CannonYa that's probably what it is.
yeah im wondering wtf as well. i got bloods done on it, everyone not very impressed.. but yeah just as you said.. redness ,not really swelling alot anymore .. it did for the first few weeks.. but baddd muscle tightness.. cant bend my leg for several days.
Also I noticed that it burns the whole time going in.. wtf?? not horrible but definitely noticeable
AnonAnyone know where I could find a code for 15% off privatemdlabs to get my bloods while on his prop 200 and npp 100 eod?
Yea jus google "coupon code for privatelabs md" man. U should be able to find it. Thats how I always get mine.
I received most of my order 2 weeks ago and after I PM'd Andy he told me that he fired his shipper and give him a few days to fix the problem. I haven't heard anything from him since! I haven't been on here posting anything negative and the reason is because it's a strong possibility that Andy got locked up! Look at the line of work he is in! I've ordered from Andy many times before and he always addressed any issues I may have had so this is unlike him. Bottom line, I hope the brotha is ok!
Andy did mention a stock for September, but lets think about something. Ill say upfront no horse in the race or excuse for no communication. But we all know his shipper was having problems. One can imagine your shipper, (some sources might use one or a few) probably has a large percentage of your finished product. Andy says fuck you your fired send these packs out. Guy can be Iike fuck you. You fire me im keeping all your shit and just run off with a insane amount of gear to do whatever with. Just a scenario ive been thinking of. Guy could be bitter he wasn't gonna get free gear and momey etc. And ran off with all his gear. And if that happened now andy has to take a loss on tens of thousands. And rebrew all kinds of oils and orals an find a new shipper he can trust. Hopefully he does the September restock and get everyone squared away.
That sounds very possible. But the fact that Andy hasn't read his now 20+ PMs or replied to any emails nor has he posted a statement on this page makes me think that he is somewhere that he can't. Because it's no excuse for not letting his customers know what's going on whether we like the reason or not UNLESS he is locked up and physically can't!
I think he got out before he got caught.
Over a month without a word. Last reply was three weeks ago, asking if I got a package. I've been emailing weekly, as I know that shit happens, but this is just ludicrous. Not cool at all, especially for a US domestic source, got ripped off for $340.
You must be new here.
Has anyone actually gotten a pack in the last 2 weeks? If so, when was it postmarked. It would be nice to know if he is still actually around and just wayyyy behind.
For all of you doubting cloudy tren stop, unless you go get it tested prove me wrong. But as stated before it's the only tren ever to give my left nipple to lactate out of my nipple. I cleared it up with caber. 100Mg eod tren a cloudy is working great so far.
Andy's sus has got me Hornier then the top source on here.
I can't speak for the npp or deca but for those others I can attest there great
Cool man thanks I'm running the cloudy tren now also with good results.
I have to heat it in near boiling water and swirl vigorously before each use (that way the hormone goes back into suspension)....but....for 100 bucks a pop at 55ml I'll take it.
Also using his dbol right now....I love this stuff.....throw in some Nolvadex everyday and almost zero bloat.....
See I'm not doing the heat part but I'm sure that's a very smart thing to do maybe that's why I think it's so great cuz I'm really sucking up more hormone per mL lol
Is the dbol tabs? Or powder I wanna try his orals
Tabs..... check out the recent pictures I posted it a few days back.
You know Andy I counted them and there were like 70 transformer head tabs instead of 50 stated on the package..lol...if he's gone I'm gonna miss him....he sent me some ABombs with my last order....i haven't used them though I will have to let you know.