This was day after I was stabbed 5 times , by the way yes I kicked his the fair way ! But after I threw him out of bar I then saw what he did , tricep cut in half , gang green started , a blood clot size of softball started at tricep , being considered a outlaw biker and labeled I got shit care up until problems set in , I was 230 and at best , but a natrual big , I want to get that six pack and have shape with size , you guys are great here TAS and his gear has helped in pain disappearing and confidence yea maybe it's cheating using gear , but I see it different if used right good results occur and mentally happy is key !