+ 1 Test levels low need advice on next cycle
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April 2013 I ran a 16 week cycle of Test E and EQ 500mg each. I only took clomid as Pct and obviously it didn't work. Went to docs in jan got blood work done and Test levels were low at i think 284.at the time. Six weeks ago i was put on TRT with a shoot of 200mg test cyp every 2 weeks. I just went back on 4/17 and these are my results. Everything looks good but my testosterone is even lower then before. I was about to start my cycle of 500mg of primo and 450 of a blend which is made up of 200 test cyp 200 EQ and 50mg of i think prop. With proviron 50 mg ed for 12 weeks and I also have hcg which i was going to jump on the 7th week into the cycle.. Point is i would like to avoid being on TRT for the rest of my life and be as healthy and natural as possible..So im wondering should i run the Hcg throughout my whole cycle and what about the proviron as well since its good for libido. For pct i was going to run clomid 100 100 50 50 and Nova 40 40 20 20 or should i run it longer or at higher dosage? Any knowledgeable opinion would be appreciated. Thanks Brothers
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I would definitely try to get your levels up naturally if it's not to late which it shouldn't be. It might be though, as it has been a long time since your last cycle ended. Should have been enough time for you to rebound naturally so it might be time for trt. If you really would like to avoid trt I would not suggest starting a cycle until you do everything possible to kickstart and raise your natural production.
As for you test levels now, this just goes to show that doctors have no idea what they are doing. Test c needs to be injected atleast once a week to keep levels atleast a little bit stable. You're going to be on a hormonal roller coaster if your only getting shots once every two weeks. You will feel good for the first week and then progressively feel worse and worse until you get your next shot and a few days pass and enough is released to raise your levels into optimal range. And there's more problems then just feeling like shit from not keeping levels stable. You will be at a higher risk of side effects like acne and such if you do not keep your levels stable. So my advice if you end up staying on trt is to split that 200mg dose into 100mgs per week. Good luck brother
Im just going to do a light cycle. Im thinking of primo 400 mg and cyp 200 mg a week for 16 weeks. Primo isn't as rough on shutting down you system down as other ASS. Then when im done with that cycle i will get on a hard core pct to see if i could get my levels back to normal. If not ohh well i guess it Trt for life
At the end of the day it's up to you and I could be totally wrong but I would think shutting yourself down again would only make matters worse. But honestly at this point you have had close to 8 months to recover naturally so i don't know if it's gonna happen. You definitely could bounce back, i have read about guys on other forums exiting trt and bouncing back but I'm sure the percentage who recover isn't very high. I keep forgetting your already on trt so your already shutdown. Either come off that and try to restart or just run your cycle and try after. Keep the cycle light and it shouldn't be to much more suppressive then your trt. Shutdown is shutdown, at the end of the day your still putting synthetic hormones into your body whether it's 100mgs a week or 500. The body still compensates and shutdown natural production.
Based off my half life calculator you would have about 40mgs left of the 200 14 days later which apparently isn't enough to keep you in optimal range. If you injected every 7 your levels would stay much more stable and you would till have more then 50% of your initial injection left.
Agreed, told the doc i want a shoot weekly and he asked why? I said to keep my blood levels the same he offered to give me 300mg ever other week instead ugh.
It's really hard to find a good doc these days. I'm guessing you have to go to the office to have the shot done?
No I was able to get him to up my dosage to 200mg a week and give me the prescription for it so i could do it my self. I just cant get another script till 10 weeks is up
noob941+1 for bloods
thanks brother
Think I would get low natty test level sorted out before I just on another cycle. Especially since u have been on trt and test level are even lower now than before you started trt. Keep us posted on this. I have a friend that is going through the same thing, but docs have yet to give him a answer on what is a muck.
RustyhookerYou've been on pharmacy trt? And your test is that low? Somethings very wrong dude.
hunteron20sX2 on that...the test cyp isnt cutting it ...get bloods and check lsh and fsh before you jaxk hcg all in you please
I got a shoot of cyp on the 1 or 2nd of this month. Then went to get my blood work done on the 17th and went for my shoot right afterwords again. Im thinking it was probably out of my system by the time my blood was drawn?
Still should be at least normal range.
hunteron20sNo not really it shouldnt ramp down that fast ..but I would fast and go 1st thing in the morning and get a female hormonal panel drawn ..that shows everything .look at my lab test thats what it is