+ 2 Para Pharma test underdosed (older batch)
*This is an update/edit: Upon further review the vial of test I’m using is an older batch that did expire so I’m going to say that’s most likely why it’s underdosed.
So I’m on some generic hgh from osgear and it’s legit as you can see. I’m also on 500 mg of Para Pharma test (from another source) and 1/2 tab of Para Pharma Arimidex twice a week. Test is definitely under dosed and the Arimidex is on point. This explains my lackluster gains and why I’ve been able to only use such a low dose of Arimidex.
Unfortunately I have some Para Pharma from multiple sources so they got mixed up and I have no idea who I got these from ;) last time I was on Para Pharma I was using it for trt at 125mg ew and my total testosterone was 988, so these numbers show inconsistencies.
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KickinhardIm shocked at that myself. I know loads of guys who are and have been on PP for years with no complaints. Ill still not hesitate to use them though. Like ones have said could have been a. Really early batch as everyone raves how potent the gear is now. Looking forward to giving them a blast myself!!
This is Very surprising - I've always had Brilliant gear from ParaPh be it Test prop, Test E400, Decan 150 / 300, Tren Ace.
I know. PP is my go to lab. I’ve never had any issues with them in the past. This is an older vial, I checked the experation date on it last night and I should have checked it earlier and it expired last year so that’s the only thing I can think of. I know meds lose strength over time but this seems to be a bit much.
That'll be why - if its from the very early batches when they first started I personally used quite a bit of the prop and it wasn't as strong as it is today. Some of the Test E 250 also.
That’s what it has to be then because this is definitely an older batch.
TricepatopsI take it your free is alot higher on 500mgs of other test. Also I was under the impression Para was supposed to be one of the better UG labs and I have seen another person recently where he was disappointed. Hopefully this is just one off and not what to expect from them.
I’ve been over 1000 for free test at This dose. I went back to some older blood test when I was using different Para Pharma vials for trt at one point and 125 mg dose once a week had me at 988 total testosterone and free was over 200. So that batch was overdosed.
Where do you normally test at on 500mg?
Between 2500 and 2700. When I’m on my script 200 mg a week my total is 1100 and that’s not peak either. I should a the very least be over 2000.
Does seem on the low end then. Is this a recent vial? PP has been testing pretty good lately so kind of surprised to see it.
They are from the last year but not too recent. I’ve always loved Para Pharma and I have used them multiple times over the years with zero issues.
Molinin302I'm not going to comment on the testosterone as you didn't get specific about pin schedule, dosing, and time frame for the bloodwork. 1700 isn't unreasonable, but I have to give you a plus because the rest of your panel is stellar! Nice job bud!
Thanks man. I try to eat healthy, train regularly and draw bloods often to see what’s going on.
I am pinning 250mg split M, Th and these labs were taking 24 hours after my injection so in my opinion and based on previous labs it should be higher. Las time I ran Para I was almost 3,000 total and over 1,000 free. Now I believe those were a bit over dosed.
Molinin302Gotta respect the honesty in my experience PP is always overdosed, sometimes too much for my liking. Did you contact the source? It's a solid one. I'm sure they'll get everything sorted. For you and their other customers, they're reliable bro. Thanks for posting the bloods, it's important for all of us.
I agree on the overdosed point. There is another very popular brand out there that’s way overdosed to the point I don’t use them anymore.
TricepatopsEveryone is happy when they get overdosed gear and then think I ran this dose with that brand and my numbers were higher and they get mad but really the one they are running now is properly dosed and they prefer the numbers on overdosed stuff. Then they complain the other is underdosed. I prefer my gear as close to the label as possible. Makes it easier to compare to my TRT doses at least for the test.
Exactly! I have script trt and I know my levels on different doses. 150mg puts me at 800, 200 mg puts me at 1100 and 500mg script puts me at 2700 ish. I have pulled bloods multiple times at these doses and results are always in these ranges so I know where I should be on what dose. This is not dosed correctly.
It’s like when people get over served at a bar. One customer comes in and always gets 2 rum and Coke’s and he’s within legal limits to drive. One day he has a new bartender who over pours his rum and Coke’s and he gets pulled over and now he’s over the limit.
Over dosed is just as bad as underdosed. Hard to plan a cycle when gear isn't the dose that is labeled.
TricepatopsI agree. Now if they tell you what it is say 290mgs instead of 250mgs well than you can adjust it accordingly. But other then that gear that is dosed correctly is the best.