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+ 11 Irionlion puretropin GH serum and IGF results

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Drawn after 3 weeks, 5 ius ed for the first 10 days and after seeing franks igf results I bump to 10 ius ed for the next 11 days. Serum was pulled 3.15 hrs after Inject 10 ius in left delt IM

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99transam's picture

I would assume so. We all had purchased within that month n a 1/2 promo. But their are no definitive answers here considering ironbox obviously has no idea whats going on/can't update labs or his si with updates on what he might or might not know.
A top notch src whom owns a puretropin facility ( ironboxs own words) could and would clear this ordeal with the quickness.

humpnpump's picture

I get the redness and sore a couple days after injection, been consistent through 2 kits. Haven't had any side like numbness or sleepiness, but I never get that with hyges or rips either.

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99transam's picture

Same here.....as I've said, my first 1/2 kit was slightly cloudy with shitty red welts. 2nd kit was perfectly clear vials no welts....I did experience tingly hands and sleepiness. 3rd kit I was back to moderate welts still sleepy. Thens franks igf results, so I quit using them. Now these results.
So yeah confused as well. 2 1/2 kits I don't know what to do with.

HailRazor's picture

I'd chunk em.
What's inside those vials? Who knows....
Could be any sequence amino acid from 190-192 and even something in between, above or below.
**Red welts:
192aa or 191/192aa combo
Impurities in the vial
Something close to 191aa but not the same amino sequence of one's natural GH.
**IGF-1 very elevated:
Ranges from person to person and also when test was done (time of day)
Exercise
On or off cycle
Supplements (Arginine, Glutamine, BCAA's etc)
Injecting 10IUs (an entire vial) everyday
191 like amino or 192aa (Mimic GH)
Could actually be overdosed with these (Chinese are smart)
If it is not PURE 191aa rhGH, not the correct sequence amnio chain like one's own natural GH and E.Coli residue (more endotoxins more adverse effects) is still present due to CHEAP manufacturing process.....then injecting such a substance can cause antibodies to form (treating it like a foreign substance) endogenous GH (your own HGH) can shut down completely (antibodies prevent the injected rhGH's effectiveness) Might happen quickly, several months....or not at all. (inconsistant IGF-1 results ??)
Only true way to know is to test the substance....not blood work.
Final Note:
There was testing done on an IGF-1 LR3 substance (Blue Top Plain Vial)
Wasn't IGF-1....wasn't IGF1 LR3. Something in between. It was made in CHINA
A little research goes a long way. You would shit the bed if you would see some of the bulletins posted on Chinese Gov. Websites about dangerous counterfeit drugs (meds) being sold in China and even in Chinese hospitals. But the unlabeled vials exported by Chinese Criminal Organizations is safe right?
Maybe this is overdosed pure 191aa rhGH made in a lab that filters it's air and water because of the pollution problems in China.
Be Safe Homies

humpnpump's picture

Appreciate your knowledge brother. I switched over to black top hyges today, until some more testing is done on these blue tops I'm not using them.

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HailRazor's picture

Now that's FUNNY! But you know, sad but true, if it raised IGF-1 2Xs the level of "Pharma"....Chinese would make ...people would buy it. Rat Growth Hormone is a 190 amino acid I think. Scary

99transam's picture

Yeah, I dont hink I have a choice. Holding on to a lost cause for nothing.
Thanks for the always usefull info Hailrazor. Fking ironbox:/

HailRazor's picture

Man, I honestly wish these were a great and pure product. Maybe these particular one's are.....maybe. But for fucks sake, these Blue Tops WILL NOT die. Probably close to a decade they've had their run, and still going. IronBox....eh....he's just providing a product that sells and what customers want. Cheap "Hopes n Dreams" with a Blue Top.

Bigguy07's picture

+1 for testing bro! My first kit I didnt. Price anything, then all the shit went down so I bumped to 5iu and ran that for a week while everyone was saying it was trash and I was just gonna run it till it was gone. Then I started noticing I was sleepy as hell and my knees hurt all the time. That's a sign of GH working for me. I'm gonna continue to run it at 5iu and see what happens. Been injecting IM to get rid of welts

frank the tank's picture

Get bloods done

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KAM1314's picture

The jins are counterfeits. They don't come in 100iu kits...hopefully it's a decent generic

solidman's picture

thanks for posting +1

a19002's picture

Now I'm in a dilemma but thanks for the bloods! +1

levelup's picture

Peptides are still very possible imo. Remember serum is just gh present in the blood so if you dumped what your pituitary had stored it could still produce a high serum test....igf is good but not what you would expect on 10iu of real growth. At this point I still think people who aren't running pharma are better off running peps

killroy's picture

Name a pep that dumps pituitary at 3 hrs? None exist. Most are out of your system by 3 hrs unless you are talking cjc Dac and for him to have the remote possibly of these levels and time his blood work just right for a pulse would be both cost prohibitive on the production end and damn near impossible on the timing end. You guys act like peptides at this efficacy are cheap to produce ... Sadly it's not the case

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levelup's picture

And you act like growth is this cheap enough to produce to be able to sell it at bogo prices. Pituitary dumps and you test three hours later. What's the difference bt that and you injecting and testing three hours later? Nothanks a damp thing. The reason you space it every three hours is bc that's how long it takes for your pituitary to produce it's store again. 4x day dose on peptides has been compared to the equivalent of 8iu of growth so that would mean 1 dose is approximately 2iu....feasible to elevate igf as well

humpnpump's picture

Yeah but I'm only injecting once per day and if it was ghrp and cjc both have a saturation dose of around 100 mcg, so anything over that wouldn't matter. You'd have to be injecting ghrp and cjc 3 or 4 time a day to get 504. One shot ed even over saturation dose would come close to 504

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killroy's picture

Exactly. I've seen blood work done on a number of peptides and serum was tested at 45 mins post injection with positive results ... 3 hrs later you are back 0

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Jc74s's picture

Indeed

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99transam's picture

Well wtf is going on here....funny, one kit gave me red welts and nothing no sides.
Next kit I had the numbest fking hands and couldn't stay awake, with not a foggy vial or red welt.
Third kit back to crazy red welt/then Franks results/i stopped after that assuming it was just not worth it....especially if it truly is 192aa which can fuck you over.
Debating on jumping back on and just going ahead with igf test.

humpnpump's picture

I've used 2'kits so far and had red welts every inject,'nothing unbareable just red and a lite sore for a couple days,'which is the basic discription of 192aa. I got some black top hyges in today and probably alternate between kits just incase it's 192aa,'might lessen the chance of antibody build up.

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killroy's picture

191aa can also cause welts... poor production technique will lea lead to e. coli protein contamination, which may explain why one kit differs from the next. I doubt there is any strict quality control measures in place to prevent this.

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KK9111's picture

thanks for the bloods +2

irongame427's picture

Are you kidding me? Holy shit. So ironbox wasn't lying. There's no amount of peptides in the world that will raises igf-1 to over 500. I rarely even see hyges do that these days at a moderate dose.

killroy's picture

actually ive seen peptide/secretogogue stack of cjc-dac 15mg ED + mk677, with igf in the 600s

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Jc74s's picture

Did you get that off of professional muscle I seen a similar stack that produced high igf as well

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killroy's picture

Yep off pm

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irongame427's picture

Assuing your taking about daily doses, that would cost roughly 8000 dollars a month...........Pretty sure the chines look for cheap combos to increase igf-1, not combos that are 8 times more expensive then pharm grade gh lol. Assuming those are weekly doses were still looking at 1000 dollars a month to make that happen. So its safe to say the chinese being that generous and giving us the good shit.

killroy's picture

My mistake , I meant 15mg EW!

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humpnpump's picture

Didn't have one done, I'm 42 yr old and stay pretty lean and tone,'so I'm guessing high 100's or right at 200. That's just a high ball guess though

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killroy's picture

Before anyone jumps on here and starts saying its peptides... It VERY unlikely his IGF increase or his serum at 3.15hrs would be this high with peps.

Enjoy your growth brother. +1

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humpnpump's picture

Yeah that's one reason i did serum and igf together. Not peptides, but who's to say it's not 192aa and I'm responding it for now

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humpnpump's picture

Yeah but nothing to right home about, just a little red and sore for a couple days.

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frank the tank's picture

504 is a good number but that's twice as much as i was using.
Is that good for 10ius ed?

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irongame427's picture

For 100 dollars a kit, or even 200 a kit it's spectacular for 10ius. It's not bunk. Now I'm puzzled with what happened to you.

frank the tank's picture

Well i was running 5ius ed and got close to 200 so if i ran 10ius ypu think that would put in the 400 range?

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irongame427's picture

The thing with igf-1 levels on gh is it's dependent on your liver. If your liver doesn't wanna produce anymore it won't. Not taking about small doses this 15+ Etc. but what I'm getting at is me and you could both take 10ius of this stuff and you might be at 600 and I might be at 400. So who knows.

I think the better question would be, is it possivle that one or 2 of your kits are bad? And the rest might be good. Cause it makes no sense for you to be at 200 or less on 5ius after 5 weeks and this guy gets 504 after 3 weeks on an average dose of 7ius ed. Cause it's not like he was on the 10 the whole time. 5 for 10 days and 10 for 11 more days so that averages to about 7.5. I would assume his to be even higher if he was on 10ius for 4 full weeks.

frank the tank's picture

It's possible some kits are good and some are bad but how can you tell?
Dose age have any factor in this?
I'm willing to go to 10ius ed. and retest see what happens.

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