+ 4 Full independent lab test (incl' specified mess spec) done in a USA university on Somastim
The lab tests attached here were also posted a couple of days ago by my customer, added to a serum test he made on the Somastim, with your permission I reported it in order to include a brief explanation.
he Somastim (orange/red top) was compared to a Jintropin (green top), they ran full analysis by the 4 most advanced method to asses purity and potency
As you may learn from the SDS page the purity adheres to 100% - the observed mess of 22.106 and the theoretical 22.124, which is responsible to higher then 99.5% purity
On the mess spec the optical density of the protein solution at 280nm the expected result is1mg/ml=0.74 which is actually identical to the results in the test of 0.743 ! again 100% match !
SO AS I STATED THE PURITY EXCEEDS THE PHARMA GRADE 98%
The jintropin was found to contain no GH, but some fragments of proteins, in many cases it's done to manipulate serum tests. You may inspect the results clearly in the specified papers,
I'm always here for any clarifications and further explanation
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So the Red Tops contain 1.86mg of protein (HGH/Somatropin). So this would be less than 6IUs per vial/less than 60IUs per 10 vial kit I'm assuming. Thanks for sharing these results.
Actually each vial contains 20IU, and multiple serum tests confirmed it.
It's good that you noticed this, same as members on other forums, so I immediately asked the same question, and consulted with my professor -
If you look at the beginning of the lab analysis you'll see on the first page that the sample was dissolved in 0.5ml on pure water, and expected protein content was 2mg, this assumption is wrong of course as the vial contains 6.7mg, so dissolving the content in 0.5ml yield a concentration of 13.3mg/ml actually .....
Also at the amino acids chart the amount of amino acid is 16 and should be 22. The calculation after it is based on this.
Note - in the process or analysis some protein is always lost at the colon, in our facility we use reverse analysis while adding some nor leucine, and see how much from it is lost to estimate the protein lost in the process.
I reported back to Mands (the member who ordered this test) and he confirmed that this calculation is not valid. He also has a recheck on HPLC on purity, lets ask him to post it
I would like to emphasize that multiple serum tests confirmed the GH content of the product, this test simply also confirms the purity and potency which exceeds pharma grade
If you have any doubts you're welcome to make a trial anonymous order, and confirm the content and quality
As soon as I get the official papers of the 99.5% purity results I will post them up. Just waiting on the lab.
Sorry for the wait!
mands
Did your product have red tops like stated in the testing or orange tops?
Sorry just saw this. They were indeed orange tops that were tested. 20 iu vials.
mands
The vials contain orange color tops,
For my best knowledge based on Mands they simply marked the Somastim as red and the Jintropin as green, anyhow ask Mands he'll know as a fact
I see. So these particular Orange Top 20Iu Vials are made by Western Biotech. Any relation to Serotropin Limited? They also sell Orange Top 20IU vials.
Not familiar with this, we use distinct class 1 pharma grade german 4ml vials by Schott Germany, not familiar at all with anyone who uses such vials with GH
Gotcha. Yes, the vials are very distinctive. Thanks for the info.
If have any doubts pls refer to post of Somastim on Eroids to confirm the very distinct shape of the vials,
I also googled now the name you mentioned - this is some old chiese shit - not sure how and why u associate it with the somastim, which is made and dispatched from a western country, no GH ever came from China exceed ever 95% purity, and it's declared on the spec on any brand whether legit or not from Chian
I'll be honored if you place any random order, and make any independent lab or serum tests on the somastim to confirm the the consistent pharma grade standards results any test revealed so far
I saw Serotropin mentioned on another forum. I believe it was old posts though. Maybe as far back as 2009-2010 maybe. Nothing bad at all. The description was Orange Top 20IU. Was just curious if there was any relation. Serotropin, Somastim, Serostim...it can get a bit confusing.
Sure bro - happy to clarify
My professor in an authority in the peptides field, more then a dozen of patents are registered under his companies (all are in the R&am realm have to say and not pharmaceutical).
First he was very impressed with the most thorough tests which were done in the USA, however he examined the results as posted and addressed the following inquiry regarding the declared 1.86mg content -
Please ask the following questions
(1) The vial that was given contained 6.7 mg hGH. The report says that it was dissolved in 0.5 ml and claims that then it was 2 mg per ml. It was supposed to have 13.4 mg per ml. How this conclusion was reached ?
(2) Pls check again how this vial was solubilized and what was the extinction (optical density) at 280 nm using quvette with 1 cm path. The extinction of hGH solution at concentration of 1 mg per ml should result in a value of 0.74.
(3) Pls report accurately how the sample was prepared for amino acid analysis to allow calculation of protein content. The present explanation is not clear. Pls also explain why an internal standard such as nor-leucine was not used.
(4) Consider performing amino acid analysis in Aminolab to validate the amount of protein based on amino acid content. If you do so I shall give you advice how it should be done.
I back up the content of each vial as well as the purity, each vial contains 6.7mg, and Mands and his team approved it. The purity as we all agree exceed any pharma grade.
All Serum tests confirmed this as well period.
Comment - If my professor would know these things are discussed in such forum (and I write it with much respect to Eroids), he would never cooperate with my team u all surely realize this
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Nice work karl
AnonSo your saying have a gmp facility producing pharma grade stuff
Considering the scope of the production this is not a full scale GMP licensed facility like Pfirzer or Serano own
We own a facility in the scope of a R&D one, very well equipped lab for this purpose, this facility actually has a GLP (Good Lab Practice) license for years. We work according to the highest standards in the industry and have a fully equipped quality assurance unit to monitor the GH purity and potency in house, other tests like toxins, pyrogen and sterility we do on an outside our lab, no need to have this in our facility, no economical justification for such and after all we're not a FDA approved facility.
I state clearly, and we may all learn from the tests done here, that we actually exceed USP. You're more then welcome to make any random order and test us by any parameters, this is actually the intention of this thread
Good stuff Karl!
We own now a new western GMP facility for the GH, we do everything there, from cultivating the engineered bacteria, through full quality assurance measures on each step on the process.
We guarantee pharma grade quality in contrast to any supplier of GH from China, actuallyany where outside the pharmacy. We back it up by full thorough lab tests, and you're welcome to test each batch, or each vial by any independent lab or accepted standards, just like shown here.
NOTE - SERUM TESTS MAY BE EASILY MANIPULATED, AND FRAGMENTS OF GH AS WELL AS DENATURED GH MAY BE ACCOUNTED FOR GH DETECTED BY SUCH TESTS, JUST LIKE SHOWN ON THE JINTROPIN IN THIS TEST. IGF1 TESTS GIVES SOMEWHAT AN INDICATION TO THE BIOLOGICAL ACTIVITY OF THE GH, BUT ALSO DEPENDS ON MANY OTHER FACTORS SUCH AS NUTRITION AND OTHER HORMONES SUCH AS TESTO, ESTRO, INSULIN, GLOCAGON CORTISOL AND MORE
For full explanation refer to -
http://www.eroids.com/pics/full-tests-of-somastim-new-gh-by-western-biotech
Well done Karl!!! Theres a new playa in the growth game!
This information is correct and I will have another summary on the purity which I received an email stating that purity was indeed 99.5% which is unheard of for any GH that has been available to the community.
I was speechless to say the least.
Please continue doing what you are doing and keep that quality control in check.
Great Job Karl!
mands