posted Sat, 10/25/2014 - 02:51
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+ 19 Empee norditropin igf and serum test
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Injected 4iu 3hrs and 45min before blood was drawn. Have been using the pens for approximately 3 1/2 to 4 months. I will write a review tomorrow. Hope this is a isolated incident. Everyone test your GH!!! No matter how good the "bro" is!!!
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This is terrible.
Not packed in cold packaging?
Counterfeit? What?
So much for going nordi pharma grade.
No man and I got them in June. I haven't seen gh sent with cold packs since pre 2007.
I dont believe they are counterfeit. I'm sure empee has posted the original packaging before. If no one has seen original packaging then maybe there is a prob.
I think he has some guys with very good results posting on his page.
Expensive gear, expensive tests, and priceless info for the community.
So anyway feeling sad and shit today. Honestly eroids has the best quality community, and i feel happy to be part of it. No one is perfect
Shit is fucked up how some fan boys act. One of them mr pump called this out to be bull shit the gets caught making fake blood work himself. SMH. You guys act like this is the only low IGF seen. Here is another for you fan boys. You should test your hgh no matter who you get it from
http://www.eroids.com/pics/igf-test-nords
IGF-1 at 236 on a 2iu dose vs 196 at 3.5- 4ius (12 pens used) Can't really compare the two tests though. Everyone will respond differently. The 236 doesn't seem bad. Would need a baseline number to really judge though. It's the 196 that does in my opinion. 4ius had me elevated in the 400's. DUUD did mention he might have skipped a dose here and there. Shouldnt make much difference though. But yes, 196 seems low. Another member in that link raised his IGF-1 156'points' using the Nords. So, I dunno.
I'm not defending the source but just asking a general question. I tought 2iu was a therapeutic dose to bring you within normal range. The link you posted never had a baseline igf test. If it was on the lower end around 100 then that increase would be pretty good and what people on hgh therapy look for. I know where you're coming from but there is way too many variables to get involved between these two guys
That's what I was saying. I never said this source was a scammer or anything. Just test your shit. It's so easy to do in the majority of the states.
If I happen to get shit directly from the pharm I'm 100% testing it...
It is so frikkn expensive for an HGH script (not that your order wasn't). Just stay away from the multi-color tops. Hopefully you'll have better results next go-round.
If you walked into wal-mart (obviously you'd need a script) to get these wouldn't they be like $1k a piece?
I think flexpro is the only one in the U.S.
Well, script from HRT clinic. It's all out of pocket. No insurance. Omnitrope by Sandoz is what I get. It's considered 'generic'. Price range is $20 per IU and up. Pens are available but I never asked the price. MUCHO DINERO
yes i remember seeing that. I always tell people to test there gear no matter where you get it from. Even if the gear is good you need to know how its effecting your body and if you need to make any adjustments
thanks for the bloods +2
JuicedAggressionWow, what did I click on lol! This whole damn thread just needs to be deleted. EVERYONE knows Empee as a great source, thats a fact! However, this guy obviously feels very strongly about what he believes and that's clearly not going to change so this back and forth arguing debate getting uglier by the post is not going to end or come to any resolution. If the blood's posted after however many pens are true, then it really sucks to be the OP, but we all know or at least a great deal of us anyway that Empee is absolutely without doubt a legit dude and that's that! No offense to the OP, but bro at this point it would be best to just chalk it up as a loss if that's honestly how you feel and let it go.
You are right.
What's an OP?
OP = original poster ...
looks like this thread has taken a turn for the worse ... I have seen solid igf numbers from users of Em pens. But like with any source ... shit happens... unintentional or not.
btw how'd you inject the gh before blood analysis IM or subq? This certainly doesn't explain your igf levels but could provide a little more insight.
And Since you were pinning post workout only. .. how many days out of the week was that and what would you say was your average IUs used per week in this four month period?
I don't think diving into this anymore is doing any good. IM for all shots. About 21iu a week. I do cardio on off days. Just to get out of house. I'm sure I'm sure I missed a shot here or there. If anyone wants any other info feel free to pm me.
Mr.pumpI call bullshit! I've dealt with EMPEE an he's one of the MOST honest SRC's on here! An I know his pens are legit ! Not sure what your running man! But with test scores like that it was deff not EMPEE's Nordi's !
gag much? thats a mouth full of nutts!
Mr.pumpOuch! Lol
Soooo.....uh....sup. =)
Ok, so 4 months....Wait, 4 months on the Nordis....OK.
So how many pens have you gone through? Which ones? 5mg..10mg?
Give us the 411 on what your 4 month HGH protocol was.
AM...PM....split dose?
Exactly how many pens in a 3 1/2 to 4 month period to get no IGF-1 elevation.
What are the odds that every pen is bad. That's why I'm asking how many pens and which ones you were using. Just a little info.
I still have a pen left. 10mg pens, 13 of them. 3-4iu Im post workout. Sometimes days a few clicks more than others.
Maybe the last pen was bad I don't know. Honestly I look good. His attitude sucks man. They shipped during the summer heat. My buddy has a script and they ship on dry ice in a bag the size of a med pizza.
This is crazy. He wasn't going crazy last night. It's like he wanted drama.
My pharmacy ships my Omni's in a styrofoam ice chest with like two cold packs. So, I'm going to do sum readin on them pens. The short amount of time they spend out of Em's fridge till they get to you, you'd think they could build a better pen, eh. I'm sending them an email and complain. These Pharmacy companies don't know their pen from a hole in the ground.
Well, if you know Em, then you know he really does care about about his product. It's always been legit. He's always gone above and beyond for me and from what I've seen quite a few other. I'm not gunna come here and bash you. I don't know you. I can only speak for Em's customer service and the HGH. I mean, shit, I've just never seen results like this or have heard of any complaints. At ALL. Especially with his customer service.
I'm glad you have been happy. My results are real. Take it for what you will. If anything it gets ppl to test all there gh. Than this has helped.
This whole thing has turned into a joke.
Nah....it's definitely not a joke. How many pens you got left anyway?
It's a joke for sure. Prob half one.
Ita not a joke at all. You posted. That's that. Prolly could get it tested, but.....it's half a pen and all the rest are gone. I don't think by me looking into a total HGH Analysis of a half used Nordi it's going to help here. Too many variables if you know what I mean. But you do see both sides of this situation I'm sure, right?
If he wants to send me the Orange one I'll have it tested and post the results. Maybe some how I mishandled them. It's silly to think I have an agenda.
I bought pens. Didn't have them tested because of his stellar rep. Was going to order more, so had some tests done. Expecting igf to be 400+ and to post them and brag. That didn't happen. Talk to source first to find a way to fix ie compensation. I don't want to drag a source through the mud for an isolated incident. What he offered was a joke, so I posted a result. That's it.
I don't know how I went about this in a dishonest way.
Stellar rep. Exactly. And then some. I trust Em.....shit more than I trust my momma.
Ok but what did I do wrong? Not that you have bashed me. But he sure did. Not that my butt hurts, in the big scheme this mean nothing except some wasted money.
My momma's kinda shady though. How bout you PM him.
I emailed him a bunch last night. There was no
piss and vinegar then.
Now I am liar with an agenda and this and that. Just because I don't spend a lot of time on here posting doesn't mean my opinion mean nothing. I have been a member of a major board since 2007 probably have 60 posts there.
Any reasonable person see's I have nothing to gain.
Really? You are a SOURCE. You sell AAS and you sell GH and you openly admitted to that. You emailed me because you wanted BULK GH for your customers because you know I supply others with quality GH. You asked the price for 6000IUs. SIX THOUSAND IUs. 200 Blue pens! 50k! Can you stop acting like an innocent customer who bought few pens off me for his own GH run? Because you're not. I bet you sold all the pens and didn't even use any. Probably one ofnyour customers sent you a lab report trying to scam you and you took it and made it your own trying to blame me.
Stop acting like a victim. You are not a regular customer nor a regular eroider. You are an undergroud source, and if you want people to be reasonable, this fact makes all the difference.
rocketballzLmao. I'm not surprised at all. Karma's a bitch. Hahahahahahaha. And that's not meant for you doo
I am not acting like a victim. I am acting like an adult. Not getting emotional and only stating facts as I know them.
Your being ridiculous. What do I have to gain? I'm not pushing anything on here or any other board. I bought these for me.
Your just making up these crazy scenarios.
Really dude get over it. We don't agree. I posted up bad blood work you say it's bullshit. I say it's not.
Your a big hot shot source, I am just some dude it shouldn't effect you. Get on with life.
You posted bloodwork related to MY products, MY name is in the title isn't it? You have the right to post whatever bloodwork you want. But if you're putting my name on it, I'm coming here and posting. It is my right as well
True but the rest is nonsense. You can say you don't agree. Never did I say you tried to fuck me.
As you posted up there to Pale Rider. You posted the lab test BECAUSE you did not get compensation. This says enough about you.
I gave you the opportunity to make it right before posting it. That's the way it's suppose to be done incase it's a isolated incident. Please read your email.
You gave me the opportunity? I am so thankful to you. Too bad there is nothing wrong to make right in the first place. You posted to scare me and make me want to shut you up with compensation. Too bad for you I'm not that kind of source.
??? Stories again. So anytime someone posts labs they are extorting someone? When did I send that email?
Y'all needa work it out. But try and see it from both sides. 12 Nordis from the Pharmacy to Em's fridge then to you.....and not even a tiny itsy bit of a hint of a maybe there's an IGF spike. And for the record, I luv my momma....
I get it. I never bashed him. Maybe the first 12 were great. He didn't even offer me 1 blue. He offered an orange one.
I know that once you post bad blood work the potential for any compensation is pretty much gone. I wish I would have tested the first one. It's so easy to get bloods. He lost his shit right off the bat. There was no indication of that attitude in the emails.
The cost of those pens aren't cheap. Maybe the orange was the last one he had. You should probably PM Em......Em n Em...
Again, he likes to hide facts, as usual. Let him show you my email because it was very clear why I chose Orange. I explained to him that Orange has lower concentration which makes it 'safer to ship' since he thinks there's a problem with shipping. Nothing to donwith value.
Bro I don't understand the slinging of insults. I even said I had nothing bad to say about you except that at no time did you say, hey sorry that happened to you what can I do to help... What I had in mind was to order more at maybe a discount. But you didn't want to make any reasonable effort.
Shipping during the summer btw. Why would you ship me something that isn't the same as what I ordered? What does that show?
The only lie being told here is that I am some how out to get you.
what i do not understand, if you used 12 pens and came back with such poor results, indicating no gh at all, why would you want to order more? even at a discount, if it is shit, why would you buy again?
Because he has such a good rep and maybe it was just 1 bad pen. I never said he was a liar or a cheat.
so you are saying you used 11 good pens and the last one was shit? at 4iu's a day that last pen would last a week. you are implying in a weeks time your igf levels crashed to a normal range after using legit pens for close to 4 months? that was really great timing on your part to test after you used that 1 bad pen.