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This test "its so good" that made other sources look bad?
Give me a break, this is so fucking dramatic & free entertainment, killing 2 birds with one rock. BTW, I've ran Clndclr Test E & Ashop Stealth(yes the stuff that comes in sachets) NPP with great results. Possibly the best cycle ever for me, peace & stay drama free people!!!
Swolepatrole777Best prop I've used, hands down. Clean is my go to. Trust this down to earth fella more than any other source on this board. I ran all his gear through my contest prep and looked the best I've ever looked and fealt the best I ever fealt in my life. I trust that these lab results are the truth, point blank.
RustyhookerThat's good to hear! Living proof!
Damn I wish I got here earlier, I would have had a change to use my ban hammer :(
AnonI THOUGHT IT WAS HEALTHY OR AT LEAST IT MADE ME LAUGH MY ASS OFF
It did get me checking out the C&C website.
AnonHaha, I laughed so hard! Good one tren!!
What in the fuck happened here? Anyways, all the BS aside clears prop is phenomenal and the best that I've had. 100 mg EOD hady test at over 3000, blood results posted!
RustyhookerUntil i see testing done by a third party that's trusted, i think it's all BS. I certainly do not trust posts made by a source at all....EVER. Just like i wouldn't invite my crack dealer neighbor into my house. A drug dealer is a drug dealer.
Fact.....with any UGL you will get a bad batch. Another fact is there's ugl thats made on a hotplate with no safety whatsoever!!! If a batch is in question, simply send that SAME lot number to another respected 3rd party.
Sachets IMO are not the best way for long term storage ever. PHARMA grade steroid drugs are in GLASS for a reason.
There's TWO forms of testing. Raws are tested for DOSE CONTENT. Meaning, they get tested by one method to determine the DOSE was at correct measurement (250/Mg example). The SECOND test is on completed oils for PURITY! There's plenty forums on purity.
If a source is not testing raws,, they risk garbage from the get go. If sources aren't then testing the completed oils for PURITY then the buyer gets shafted.
Like the results or not, Angus has been the tester for a while. There's plenty of other testing sources out there. But I'm not putting faith into any tests posted by a seller. I want third party with nothing to lose. 3rd party with no allegiance to ANY SOURCE.
And unless the finished oil has mass specs from 3rd party, then the only PROOF is its dosed correct oil. I want proof its a PURE and CLEAN substance.
AnonMr rusty . I looked at your page and all you have pics of are ugl with no third party testing ? I know this thread spun outta control and I don't think shots where being thrown at me . If they where I'll be ok . I have nothing to hide
RustyhookerThere's a lot more that went on here and other forums. Read and learn. That's what the site is about.
I ran only pharma before coming here several years back. There's some damn good ugl on the market. And there's the shady back door crack dealers.
84% test prop is damn nice. Just post the rest and cite the tester.
Anonive post some shitty stats bro had people post shitty bloods when it came to estro with my adex bro i dont have nothing to hide . sweeping things under the carpet will cause nothing but problems at this point i have nothing to lose but get better
Clean don't fuck around and has hooked me up on numerous occasions. Very good go to guy.
RustyhookerAnd that's commendable sir!
I'll be running your drol promo this winter. Thanks!
flockaflame02Pretty sure angus does clears testing
I agree that a sample submitted by a SRC should not be trusted at face value. But I like to see their test results anyway. First to see that they care enough to test, and second so I can compare my test results to theirs after I buy it and test it myself.
If my results and theirs match then the source will have earned some credibility with me and I will put a little more trust in his posted results in the future.
But to do that I think we need ALL the pages!
Also it is fairly straightforward to see how reliable Angus' test results are even without comparing his results to other labs.
First, all samples submitted by customers should be sent in blind-- without source identity. That way there can be no suspicion that he might be favoring any source.
Second, once in a while send in the same sample twice. See if his results are the same on the same sample. If so, credibility is established.
Now whether or not he is using a correct method, I'm not going anywhere that issue. So far his test results match my experience with the product, but that's all I know about it.
It still remains for each one of us to decide which customer who has something tested is credible and which ones should not be trusted at face value. After all anyone can claim to be a customer and claim the product is Steroid A from Lab B.
My personal approach is to just have every product tested every time I make a purchase, at least until a SRC establishes strong credibility with me. Not cheap, but cheaper than buying bunk gear.
RustyhookerDouble blind testing is a rule of every lab. That is how a tester locks in his skills as 100% tried and true.
I've been here long enough to see many labs busted as fakes after posting their findings without 3rd party tests.
My statement was not aimed at clean or Angus. Lab testing procedures are GLOBAL. It's not FDA testing every single sample double blind and Germany testing singles on every 5th batch. The science community is bound globally. If ugl can't pass tests, then surely you must question their gear. Sources are no better than any drug dealer just because they have a computer.
Sources not testing every batch will not get my business. Angus handles that heat and pressure.
AnonOnly problem with that approach is now you have made Angus the single most powerful man on this website. Even more powerful than BFG. I love Angus but not enough to declare him Messiah. Only through accepting him as their Lord and Savior will the Srcs get salvation. No thanks
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkbigwillyWell put. Also who's to say you'll get what got tested. This is and always will be a gamble.
AnonSpot on!! And it isn't that I think angus isn't an honest dude...
But that's a fuck of a lot of power for one man/ member of this board.
Seems to me that any individual with said power would quite easily be able to pick and choose what kind of press gets out. There has to be a better way to do this IMO. I'm also in agreement that a source cannot be trusted to produce unbiased results. Again, not to be trusted. Not saying anyone is lying...just that it would be way to easy to do so.
We need something entirely independent. I'm not saying it will be fool proof, but there has to be a better way.
I'd love to find other labs who will accept our samples and test for us. If anyone knows of one, please PM me.
But as for the current situation making Angus too powerful, I don't see that happening when Angus doesn't know whose product he is testing. How does having test results from an unidentified source give him any power?
RustyhookerActually as a science man, you know better than that bro. Double blind means TWO separate labs. Not one. And all tests openly posted. All of them. Not just tbe ones that look good for the sources because a fanboy decided to post the good result. Or the discarded bad post because the user gets freebies to keep mouth shut.
AnonBro this ain't Pfizer or Watson. That will never happen. Plus even though I've sent samples to Angus I don't trust him enough to send that many samples. None of this is legal. None of it. I don't know how angus isn't on the LE radar yet. As many blind members as he accepts illegal drugs from it's not safe. It's complicity in the marketing of UGL Labs. Some of which are most definitely on the radar. To think that his labs don't affect the gross sales of these underground labs is grossly ignorant. Our desire to know what we are purchasing though extremely important is also for Angus and his University extremely risky. This topic has way too much exposure for the public eye. IMO this all should all be hidden in the group section for his safety.
bigwillyOh shit, this stuff we're all doing is elegal, lol
I second what your saying. We get caught up sometimes and forget what and where we really are...
RustyhookerHidden in the group section where the known le members can still read?
AnonYa I know. But right now everything is accessible with google search. At least in groups it isn't. I'm sorta just thinking out loud bro. This whole thing just makes me nervous.
RustyhookerI fully agree. Im overdue for long vacation.
AnonSo since this thread got hijacked to insanity let me redirect politely.
So has anyone ran CleanandClear's Test Prop? Seems like a decent lab result! Anyone out there got some feedback on the Src who's thread got totally fucked hijacked and disrespected? I've never run CleanandClear but so far everything I've seen suggests homeboy is doing something RIGHT! He obviously has a lot a class to have remained so calm and not going GANGSTA on the disrespectful folks who turned this Srcs lab result into a pissing match. I know if I were CleanandClear I wouldn't have let that shit slide. Lots of respect to him for showing us what CLASS is.
Mr KfizzleI have ran it! Love this shit!
http://www.eroids.com/pics/test-prop-for-days
I am asking excuses also for the mess.
X2
Only thing I can say is that this is 100% pure confusion with all these tests, however I do not doubt on angus intentions and got the feeling like you that angus is doing this with a good intention but it would be good to have some other alternatives to back his tests up !!
Stay calm King of pin in tha house
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AnonWell, I for one have run a few items from clear...not the prop noted above, but for the sake of this thread being about clear's gear I am not surprised by the results at all.
I ran some eq over the winter and still have some of his winstrol left...very solid gear and I think his rise in the rankings is reflective of that.
I ran his prop many times and always had positive results with it .Clr hasn't been on sense this shit storm of debates started but Ian sure if any question will arise he will take of them the funny things is he's been posting labs in this manor never seen this kind of response .
I apologize also. I normally never put my 2cents in but I overstepped my boundaries out of frustration. I'm actually a little embarrassed of myself and my apologies go out to CNC, Ashop, and Angus. Have a happy 4th of July everyone. Be safe
angusYou are correct CARLOSDANGER, I am very sorry CnC. It will not continue. That was very disrespectful of me.
AnonBig bra I really don't care about best action I've had on the 4th
AnonLike I said you earned my respect bro.
way to take one for the team
AnonAt the end of the day these are the results Angus gave me. That's the facts plain and simple the rest of the talk is entertainment for me
C&C, do you have the rest of the report. I've been trying to learn a little about the whole mass spec process,
The graphs and charts are quite informative.
AnonYou got drug into this bro. You're just defending yourself IMO. I'll be more clear for everyone.
Ashop is a
BITCH
for using Clr's thread to attack you.
Loose_CannonHahahaha too funny
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/mass-spec-explainedslei...
https://www.dynalabs.us/content/Test-Potency-Purity.shtml
OUR METHODOLOGY
DYNALABS employs a number of technologies for testing potency however; purity measures and stability studies are performed using technologies where the methods can be proven to be stability indicating (eg. HPLC). Our list of potency/purity testing technologies, include but are not limited to, HPLC, LC-MS, GC, UV/VIS, NIR and Titrations.
Yes perfect correctly. This is what I told everyone until now.
Look you see they refer to PURITY for the raws ( API ) not for the FINAL PRODUCT. There is no term of PURITY in final product. Maybe potency is for final product.
Also you see THIS LAB IS VERY GOOD. You see they mention the metods for testing ( USP )
You proved now that I AM RIGHT !!!
Testing protocols are developed based on guidelines delineated in USP <621> Chromatography and USP <851> Spectrophotometry and Light-Scattering, and are validated according to USP <1225> Validation of Compendial Procedures and ICH Guidelines.
USP means United States Pharmacopeeia !!!
You proved my point THANK YOU !
When ANGUS will test based on those methods I will respect him and his methods !!!!
I read that they most often test raws, but are able to test the following forms;
FORMS TESTED
troche
capsule
oil
gel
cream
suspension
tablet
suppository
pellet
aqueous solution
powder
lollipop
foam
inhalant
injectable
paste
ointment
exactly. Everything based on USP methods with HPLC.
Please run on Google maybe you find without payment USP methods for testing the product in that list
You will not find MS used for this ONLY HPLC
Link to some educational material.
http://www.waters.com/waters/en_US/MS---Mass-Spectrometry/nav.htm?locale...
Everyone can read there with attention: Who Uses MS? Please read carefully you will see that MS is for those who work with unknown samples for identification. I think this proves again I am right. MS is used for criminologists who doesnt care what is the purity of a cocaine but they want to know if cocaine is present so they can put a ass in jail. Also is use by scientist who make research. I don't see anywhere to say that MS is used for QUALITY TESTING IN PHARMACOLOGY . It say clearly is for : "Researchers and practitioners from various disciplines and subdisciplines within chemistry, biochemistry" Do you see anywhere pharmacology ? Do you see that anywhere mention that MS should be used for testing the quality of drugs ?