posted Tue, 04/01/2014 - 11:12
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22 year old distribution empire of aas busted
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A kid living with his parents had a distribution empire going.
http://www.vindy.com/news/2014/mar/21/joseph-a-stiver-22-of-bazetta-is-c...
http://www.tribune-chronicle.com/page/content.detail/id/602222/Bazetta-m...
http://www.steroid.com/blog/Youngstown-State-Student-May-Have-Been-Large...
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http://courts.co.trumbull.oh.us/eservices/
click Search and type in their names , you can see the full list of charges and next court dates.
Charges were corruption and steroid sales. Damn lucky they aren;t going after him with RICO.
Anyone know what happened to GC?
Rustyhooker....
Yo we should make a fund to help our bros who fall victim of an obsolete system.
Badger set the eroids charity standard. The charity standard provides that eroids bros believe in a system of donation.
I know that people need excellent defense. I do you do.
I wish someone with the know how would take over and "wolf of law street "this shit
FREE OUR BRO'S
I have been wondering if anyone has ever considered a petition. Not sure how many eroids members there are but, at very least, could probably be a significant statement.
Ud need something along the lines of an organization like the nra. That would take a great of effort, time and money. There's supposedly 4 million aas users in this country. Having them sign up for a monthly newsletter would b a good first step towards educating and organizing them.
AnonActually thats a good idea. All you need is a bunch of money and a lobbyist on your side to advicate for legalization. I imagine there have got to 1000`s of members if each one donated 40 bucks you could have $400,000 and more to donate politically to the advocating of legalization.
From what I understand there are tens of thousands of eroids members. If a good chunk of that signed a petition and the mods were willing to let eroids name be heard it could possibly be huge. I'm sure such a large group of people signing a petition for anything would be news worthy which would hopefully then get others on board who use aas but don't know about eroids. I think a difference could be made!
That would involve a loss of anonymity that a bunch of us rely on bc of our jobs. For example, simply having an account here would cost me mine. I'm sure I'm in a very small minority here professionally tho. And that's about all I am willing to say on the subject.
I will say this. .. If you had a couple lawyers around, in private practice, that's where you'd need to focus first.
I am no expert, let me get that out of the way. I also don't have the means to follow through with this idea. It is simply that, an idea.
I think one simply signs said petition, so unless you are the only person in the country with your name, I would think it's pretty anonymous.
I think the second a bro rolls on any other bro or sings even the slightest, that bro gets automatically disqualified from the charity fund and then that fund is put towards hiring someone to shut that person up and teaching that person how to be a man and taking his hits.
Rea Talk!!!
+1 ....that's the way uh huh uh huh I like it! Logical indeed
I like your style S_T.
That and then some.
Interesting
Did muta really offer paypal? I didn't think anyone would offer that.
RustyhookerThe origional news report up top cited the gym owner stole id info. That info was used so they could buy supplies anonymously. Not for end users.
ClassyChassisedit
AnonGood edit. I wanted to type a similar response but we dont need all that all in the open
This is steroid.com we are talking about. I take everything they write with a grain of salt. The author cited two articles and still threw in a bunch of misinformation.
The media always screws things up anyways. They make everything sound like the story of the century. Im sure if they ever busted any gear hoarders they would make it seem like hes the big time dealer .When in fact hes just a guy preparing for a rainy day.
I would refrain from discussing what he offered till after the judge gives him probation. JAIL IS NO PLACE FOR A COLLEGE BOY.
AnonNo he did not.
they don't... for obvious reasons DUH!
yeah I would think it's obvious but found it strange that the article said that. Misinformed reporter. Shocker
Smart kid, I remember what I did at 22. I don't think I had discipline to set up any kind of enterprise like that. If it is so easy to do, than everyone would have a #1 ranked successful business. It is a shame that happened to him and it must be tough to see all of that hard work disappear.
if he was a smart kid; he would have got out when he was ahead instead of trying to get bigger; that was his downfall. There are young kids 18 years old making a ton more money in the illicit drug market that have zero college education. It doesn't take brains to sell drugs and make a lot of money. it takes brains to gtfo before you get caught. And you will get caught sooner or later, you are not above the law by any means. He threw his life away, its a felony that will follow him to every job interview he goes on; When he tries to get an fid card, He is also labeled now so they will be forever watching him. Not only does he have to look over his shoulder for cops; he will look over his shoulder for the people he stepped on. Youth is wasted on the young.
I disagree, he can bounce back from this. You think everyone that got a felony when they were young is screwed? It is definitely a big bump in the road but if he busts his ass and continues his education he will be okay. And for all we know he hid a chunk of change offshore, might have to leave it alone until after he serves his sentence but at 22 he will have plenty of life after.
You cannot work for a bank; lawyers office, doctors office, federal government, state job, working with money, working with kids, Plus ANY job where on the application it states, "have you been convicted of a felony?" If you lie you will be fired anyways. Thats why its called "moral turpitude" and a proclivity towards dishonesty. Possession with intent falls under the grounds of moral turpitude. Possession of a Class 3 substance means automatic no chance in hell. Its a schedule 3 substance which puts it into the area of prescription drug abuse. I worked in corporate for 15 years and if you have a felony your chances of getting employment are incredibly slim. He can get a job doing medial or general work or even start his own business, anything else that could give him a good living is out the door. Misdemeanors do not show up on a background check after 7-12 years, Felonies follow you forever.
I disagree, I'm a double convicted felon, and I work by myself and with money. After so many years, I'm not obligated to disclose my felonies, in an application if I don't wish. I personally believe judging someone on their past is ignorant, the past and the present is just the manifestation of your growth both mentally and physically. Just because I committed a crime as a young adult doesn't dictate a life of crime. However, when people judge you and force you out, they don't allow you the opportunity to provide an honest living, you're left with very little options, one will do what one needs to survive.
You are right that felonies follow you forever, but I work for a large county government IT group. The question is there on the application, but answering yes opens a conversation for us...it doesn't slam the door shut. We filter potential candidates based on their knowledge and experience, so for them to get to this point in the process indicates they have value to our organization. As I said, the felony is discussed, and we have made offers of employment. We will automatically dq anyone who claims no felony record and it later shows on a background check. But I will agree with you that it does in many, many circumstances close a lot of doors. Same goes for sex-offender registrants.
I'm sure it also depends on what the felony was to be considered.
I know you were not trying to be a dick but this post really chaps my ass. Your assumption that it takes a college education and some office job to "give him a good living" is completely baseless. In my line of work, I'm an Industrial Tradesmen, you can easily make over 125k a year and most of the people I work with never finished high school much less went to college. I've worked with a bunch of ex-cons including convicted murders, and only the violent convictions keep them from getting certain work. Again bro not mad at you but I had to get that off my chest.
RustyhookerCollege has nothing to do with good living. But a felony will slam the door in your face for the jobs he posted. Blue collar por vida!
betcha i wont forget him! world aint so small
Don't judge me guys, but I made a few mistakes growing up and I have a felony and it's really a heavy burden to bare. I've done my time, paid my tab, but it still haunts me. I really wish I knew what I know now, back then.
I resemble that :-\
Lovin the avi
Mr.pumpLmao!!
Misdemeanors still show up in background checks. Yes he could do a menial job, but other than the federal and state governments most of your other assertions are not absolutes. I have a friend that due to a bad choice as a 17 year old caught a second degree murder conviction, he did 8 or 9 years got his degree and went on to manage at a fortune 500 company. I couldn't be prouder of the guy, it would have been easy for him to listen to the uninformed such as yourself in this case and give up.
There is also youthful offender statutes in place across most of the country that could possibly come in to play, again we DON'T KNOW. I get it, you don't want no kids on your lawn, lol. But through your words I can tell you haven't had much exposure to former criminals that have turned around and made a good life. Well I am here to tell you, I was one of them and grew up with a bunch of others that were too smart for their own good as well. Some of them didn't make it, but a bunch of us did.
I know for a fact not all CEO's will look down on what Muta did. He showed great initiative even if it wasn't legal. He is the type of person that can make things happen, certain companies will covet his skill set guaranteed.
AnonI mentioned the Y.O plea early in this. I was fortunate enough to get it on my second time around. Instead of catching 67months I only caught 14 months.
rusty put it in a way that made my girl freak.
You catch a charge for hormones bro? Thats like......
i know a felon who got a job for the post office. federal government job. it was over ten years old but still on his record
I am very proud of you and your friend for making it. I did time as well. I was with murderers, drug dealers, rapists, and all the other wonderful people. I will not share too much here like I would LOVE to but you are not worth it to me. You constantly try and get your following to back you up by trying to make me look like an asshole who has no idea and to be honest I am getting fkn sick of it. You baited me again to make me lose my cool but I will not let it happen again. Welcome to my Fuck you list.
BOOOM!
LOL, so you talk all kinds of shit and then say you are done? No, you ain't getting off that easy. You have been following me around belly aching about fan clubs and all kinds of bullshit while at the same time trying to pretend like you have some knowledge. I'm calling bullshit! BTW, love your "shirt on" progress pics bro, do us all a favor and don't talk about diet until you get a handle on your own, eh... Now, you can go fuck off somewhere I have work to do..
I love how you went straight for my pictures and tried to make fun of me. At least I was man enough to show mine instead of picture whoring karma with all the gear you have bought. And I believe my progress is pretty fkn good for someone who was 270 pounds a year ago and is not doing 1 gram of test a week. Welcome to your inflated gear picture karma level, Congrats! Don't you have more gear pictures to post and giving more karma to mods every chance you get?
LMAO! Yea I have never posted pics of myself. But when I never did all but one were shirt off, the first one looking back was terrible too, but thanks to this place I turned it around. Just do everyone a favor bro and get off this imaginary high horse you are on. Nobody is buying it and it has gotten old. Okay.
edit, Just went back and looked at your pics, you are not only full of shit you are a hypocrite as well. BTW how many times did you take the pic of the same Zyklon gear,lol. You are a riot bro!
Well then, you're living proof that this kid's life is far from over. America loves its criminals. If you're good enough at it they might even make a movie about you.
His life is not over; but he is going to have a huge hill to climb.