posted Mon, 01/23/2012 - 16:03
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Never recovering natty levels
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I have a friend (yes, this is on a friends behalf not mine. I'm on-cycle right now) who ran 12 weeks of cyp @ 500mg and tapered with 100mg test p EOD followed by a 3 week pct regime of nolva/aromaisin.
he just messaged me (his pct ended in september) and says he still feels like his T levels have never bounced back, but hasn't had bloodwork to confirm.
Question: are there any off-cycle regimes recommended for this type of off-cycle/low t/groggy feeling to spark natural production? is it pointless without bloodwork having been done?
Would HCG help this? Or would he better be served with over the counter test boosters?
Just curious. thanks guys
jon
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Nolvadex and Aromasin do nothing to regenerate/stimulate natural test production. HCG and Clomid can kickstart but as Ebs and Tread mention below and because 4+months have passed he should get bloodwork done to be completely sure of his situation.
nice bro. thanks for the hasty respones. I'm going to recommend he gets some blood work taken before we move on
Have blood tests done. Before that is the case we can't give you any info on what to do. When natty levels don't bounce back you need to determine the specific reason for that before you can do something.
nice bro. thanks for response
tread-mTOO LITTLE INFORMATION ON YOUR FRIEND...If he had low T to begin with he may have nothing to recover and need trt if a little older. If his pct was bunk he may be shut down, if his estrogen and shbg are through the roof he may not be able to utilize his free test ...on and on. I recommend tests...btw, he may have dead estrogen from all the aromasin pct and feel like hammered shit from that.
tread you are the expert for this... i realize now he HAS to get blood tests to acutely battle this.
he is 25 so trt should be ruled out (i should have said that up front). has done one cycle prior.
I will tell him to test and then speak with you regarding results...
The PCT was all geneza pharma from naps. I've always understood it to not be bunk, but then again who knows
Thanks for your hasty reply bro