+ 2 Prami Psychosis/Hell - but still worth it...
I fucking hate this shit (Prami), but it's so worthwhile. Out of all the shit I put in my body, I'd have to say, Prami by far makes me feel the worst, BUT also does exactly what we say it does. When running a 19nor, Prami has (at times) turned my rock-hard/sore diamond-like nipples into flat dimes. Prami has also tackled a lump under my left nipple that has been there for 2 years, making it almost non-existent (even after running high doses of letro for a month with little result).
I've done countless hours of research on dopamine agonists, and hormone release in muscle, and why Prami makes you tired as fuck but then wakes up you up every hour making you hate your life. I've also made the mistake of high dosing and ended up bent over my toilet, puking my head off, while having a massive and completely irrational boner. Not to mention the fact that I just feel mind-fucked and have a tough time carrying a conversation, making prami impossible for me to use and go out in public
That being said, it definitely does the trick for sensitive nipple issues... but i seriously feel early on-set of psychosis when using... anyone else have shitty, but still successful experiences with Prami? I know im not the only one who gets these sides. Google, "prami pukes" or "daws" or "prami withdrawal" , there are tons of horror stories mixed with successful reviews, but i'd like to hear some eroids takes and experiences
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I got 1 mg tabs and I want to taper up any suggestions? I think I can cut them in 1/4s
just started prami this week, did not taper, started at .25/day. Big mistake, i feel very weird, tired but cant sleep, nausea, cloudy mind, edgy and my mouth and lips are incredibly dry im also experiencig anxiety.
I am letting it clear out and will start a very gradual taper tomorrow.
go here, gives you a taper protocol for prami, change your dose every 4th day
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/pct-dosing-wi...
thanks bro, i know how to read a syrjnge, I just thought the start low thing was all over hyped, well as usual I had to find that out the hard way, Prami is likely the most potent thing I have ingested.
The power of prami is not to be underestimated my friend!!!
UFODude.....why dont you switch to caber?? Same exact results, no side effects.
i think for some of us, the cost of caber and the availability are the issues for it. i know some say they wont touch it cause of the heart problems its been linked to but what we use it for we will never get into dosing that high to cause those issues, when i ordered the prami, I couldnt find a source that had any in stock.
Prami sounds like garbage. I have been taking caber for 3 weeks now. No side effects.
Glad I came across this thread. Ironically enough I've cycled gear at least 18 times or more 12 of that using tren, never had an issue with my libido until this cycle. I was torn between caber and prami. I chose to go with prami because of the GH effects. I guess I really did'nt realize the ramp up was so slow, been on it a week and I'm at .5...prob why it fucks me up so much. No nausea thought. Its really quite annoying, I've tried taking it in the morning, basically makes me tired as shit all day along with just generally feeling "weird". I've tried taking it at night and I toss and turn all night dont sleep for shit. So..with that said, would it be advisable to drop down to like .1 and go up .1 a week? I'm also curious how long it takes to stabilize your libido? I just starting dating this chick and she is kinda wondering why I dont want to fuck her...depressing really lol.
okay, so i had trouble going up to, took me a little till i got it figured out. i cant go up fast or the nausea is unbearable. so here is what i do,
.0625ml = 0.125mg day 1-3
.125ml = .25mg day 4-6
.1875ml = .375mg day 7-9
.25ml = .50mg day 10-12
to get the GH effects you need to run 1 or 2g a day. .50mg ed is for prolactin Ai so if you want to keep going up use this basic formula here. going up .0625ml at a time. you wont get the measurements perfect in a 1ml syringe but try to be consistent
try taking it a few hours before bed, if im going to bed at 9pm i take it around 6pm, seems if i can fight some of the initial grogginess off i sleep better.
i have trouble focusing and i sleep like shit on it, but it works. I notice if i jump even a little over .1 on taper up, im sick as hell all day the next day, im super careful when i taper up, or the nausea is unbearable.
what up I seen you posted on Roxi. I order from them and wanted to know about them. They seem to be playing me about not getting my gear.
read the rules!!!
Prami has made me sicker than anything with the possible exception of Boldenone Acetate. That having been said, I completely agree with you. It is pretty much the only thing I've had success with when it comes to preventing gyno from those 19nors.
From what I understand, the cardiac valve issue with caber only applies to parkinson's doses - which are 10-100 times higher than those used for hyperprolactinemia.
It's all in your head bro. Prami increases dopamine receptors in your head. People who have low dopamine then suddenly get high levels can't handle it.
JUst try to let it not bother you, the more you think negative about it the worse you are making it.
Weird because Prami is perfect for me. Less sides than Cabergoline IN MY EXPERIENCE. Caber gave me the shits and made me feel weird and dizzy. Prami on the other hand has my nips prolactin free and my dick notices it too! I feel good on prami, sleep like a baby, and no sides!!!!
Me too...I only keep Prami on hand just in case but the one time I needed it I got none of the sides everyone above was saying. Stated to think my shit was bunk and it was the extra aromasin I was stacking to bring it down until I read your post. Guess I already have high dopamine levels?
I started prami at 0.1mg the first 2 days then 0.2mg next 2 days. I kept going up by .1 every 2 days and now up to 1mg with no sides.
The key to prami is slowly increase dose. For you you may need to take a few weeks for each dose increase since you are so responsive to it.
I've been meaning to give it a try.. def looking into it as a cheaper source.. Hopefully ramping it slowly does the trick like you said.. sposta be better at prolactin suppression than caber any ways
I highly recommend it. If you got any questions hit me up.
Yes it is much more powerful than caber in terms of prolactin suppression. Also liquid form is stable unlike caber.
mr127superdeehave you ever tried to substitue cabergoline for prammi
I have, but prefer prami for 2 reasons.
1.) it comes in research chem/liquid form. (If you see RC companies selling "caber" its complete bullshit), which makes it easier to dose and much more reasonably priced than caber
2.) caber has been linked, not strongly, but linked, to cardiac valve and other cardiovascular issues that prami has not been linked to
outside of withdrawal following recreational use, there is very limited online info on prami being bad for you, even long-term use at reasonable doses
mr127superdeegotcha thanks for opening up my mind a lil to this prami vs caber thing! when or if i ever do a deca run ill definetly have you in mind
Prami makes me puke. end of story. lol . no matter how low of a dose I take, I always end up bent over the toilet puking my guts out until my eyes get all bloody, last time my girlfriend even had to carry me in bed, I felt like I was gonna die.
damn , I don't doubt it. nothing more humbling than being bent over your toilet, puking your eyes out, while you have a retardedly erect penis. last time I ever take a generous dose of prami without proper ramp-up
ahahahaha
I dont remember if I had a boner or not, probably, I always do lol
Sounds like a bitch but also worth it.. It got rid of regular gyno if im reading this right? A lump? When letro could not?
Prami has anti aromatase activity so it's possible.
I would be lead to believe it was prolactin induced gyno that it ultimately cleared up, but I'm no physician. Just understanding that prami works as a prolactin inhibitor, and the gyno issues I was having were while using Deca, and most recently with tren, I would say it was more than just estro induced gyno... if that makes sense
FR sent btw
got it
makes sense
I hear ya man. when I was dosing at .25 before bed that shit fucked me up. Dizziness, dilated pupils (looked like I was rolling) feels like when I take nyquil, hate that shit. Never threw up but felt I could have the next morning many times. Never gone over .25 tho. Also blasted a hard lump I had in like a week or so.
the results are amazing though, right? It crazy how it removed my pesky lump (even though I was the only one who knew it was there).
Prami is a Parkinson’s medication, and for prescription purposes, is dosed at anywhere from 4-6mg/day. can you imagine that? my fucking head would spin... but then again, I dont have Parkinson’s
I found the most useful way for me to avoid sides is to gradually ramp up dosing (starting as low as .0125, which in liquid form is like 1 or 2 small drops) up to .25 e3d while running any nor's. I take 4-6 hours before bed, after fighting the initial sleepiness, the time between dosing and bed helps me get an uninterrupted nights sleep