UPDATED: test prop/tren a/ var
26yr
5th cycle
204- 12-13%bf
Looking to run my first tren cycle trying to get rid of this stubborn fat over my abs, looking to hopefully drop to 8-9%
diets on point about 2200 cal gonna be dropping it to around 2000 during this cycle my diet is all lean meat fruits and veggies no grains so i should shredd up nicely with some cardio.
i want to make sure i do it right the first time so im taking suggestions
Planning on pinning ed
Weeks 1-2
test p 50ed/ tren a 50ed/mast p 50ed
(as long as no sides)
Weeks 3-10
test p 50ed/ tren a 75ed/ mast p 50ed/var 100ed(2 doses of 50mg)
hcg on cycle starting week 1 500ius (split in 2 doses)
aromasin- 6.5ed after week 1
caber- .25mg e3d
pct-weeks 11-14
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Please give me you honest feedback trying to make sure i do it right i've done my research and feel comfortable running these compoounds I'm dropping the mast because I like the suggestions from everyone on here to see how my body reacts to one new compound at a time.
So cycles gonna be pretty much the same just with out mast. I will be running var at 100mg Ed
I will also be using the albuteral inhaler for cardio
I'm currently running an ECA stack which I'll most likely drop going into the cycle will see how I feel about it.
STARTED THIS CYCLE JULY 5TH
| test prop | tren a | var | hcg | aro | caber | nolva | clomid |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 50mg ed | 75mg ed | 100mg ed | 500iu | 6.5mg ed | .5mg | ||
| 50mg ed | 75mg ed | 100mg ed | 500iu | 6.5mg ed | .5mg | ||
| 50mg ed | 75mg ed | 100mg ed | 500iu | 6.5mg ed | .5mg | ||
| 50mg ed | 75mg ed | 100mg ed | 500iu | 6.5mg ed | .5mg | ||
| 50mg ed | 75mg ed | 100mg ed | 500iu | 6.5mg ed | .5mg | ||
| 50mg ed | 75mg ed | 100mg ed | 500iu | 6.5mg ed | .5mg | ||
| 50mg ed | 75mg ed | 100mg ed | 500iu | 6.5mg ed | .5mg | ||
| 50mg ed | 75mg ed | 100mg ed | 500iu | 6.5mg ed | .5mg | ||
| 500iu | 6.5mg ed | 40mg ed | 100mg ed | ||||
| 6.5mg ed | 40mg ed | 100mg ed | |||||
| 40mg ed | 100mg ed | ||||||
| 20mg ed | 50mg ed | ||||||
| 20mg ed | 50mg ed |
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Trens sides suck bro I always run tren a and a low dose. I hate waking up wet every 30 mins
AnonI'm hoping the igf I'm getting will help with that. I always sleep like shit so won't be anything new to me plus I'll pop a few benedryll should be fine
Your first tren cycle all you need test p tren a, caber and low dose of stane if needed. I would run test p at 4o mg ed tren a 60 mg ed no var.
AnonAnother update I'm gonna be running b6 injections to help aid with prolactin sides
And some clen 40mcg pre cardio
clen and tren together?
AnonYea to help with breathing .. Was I enformed incorrectly...I've ran clen before and enjoyed it. But y is it that you ask?
They explained well below, I was just thinking the two shouldn't be ran together since they do some of the same things. Less is best KWIM? But I don't know shit about tren so I was being curious.
Albuterol would be better. Clen can actually make your breathing worse in time and it can also cause permanent heart damage even from just limited use. I would never recommend anyone to take clen. It's one of the harshest drugs in bb with long term negative health effects.
Albuterol BOOM! +1
AnonYea I grabbed an inhaler for now until I find some tabs
X2. Studies I've read on clen were on mice but still showed scaring of the heart. I'm all set with that, rather do some extra cardio.
AnonThank pimp I trust ur judgment gonna see if I can swap out the clen I was gonna get with more of the albuteral inhalers. Can u pm me about where to get tabs of albuteral
AnonOK so being that I've already purchased 50ml of tren I'm gonna save the money and drop the mast. Tren is deff what I'd really like to run. Plus from what I've read mast at my bf 13% isn't optimal
Sounds good to drop the mast. Only thing else I would do is keep the aromasin in for at least the first couple weeks of pct. It will help up your natty test
I agree with the vets man. Pick either Tren or mast. KISS (keep it simple stupid) which is what I was told at one time lol If guys our age cant achieve what we want from just test then we aren't working hard enough and are diet isn't in check. If your going to add in another compound I would use mast not a 19nor.
With that being said its just my opinion and you've clearly done some research so I commend you for that.
I would personaly stay away from 19nors because they do a lot more harm then good if you don't know EXACTLY whats going on. My opinion, don't touch that stuff until you have a lot more cycles under your belt and are a little older.
But cheers man, and whatever you decide to do, keep it safe and train hard!
KISS. Lol I like it.
have your ran mast and var before?
Anoni also have everything but the mast that im planning on orderin in the next few days unless i get suggestrd otherwise like if primo would be a better choice
The same thing comes into paly. Have you ran primo?
Anoni havent ran mast i was suggested to add mast to help balance out the tren... but i have ran var ran it 50mg was ok 70 was better now i wanna try 100.
i was also concidering maybe swapping mast for primo because of a god price i can get it for not sure tho
you should only add in one new compound at a time. So I would pick mast or tren. Tren seems like the one you really want to run and im sure you will get amazing results on it considering its reputation. I have never run it though. I have ran mast var and test p and its an amazing cutter.
Anonjust to be clear. i should just stick to tren test var being as ive run prop and var before but not tren mast or primo and i already have the tren?
yes. Dont want to run more then 1 new compound in the cycel because if you get side or have some sort of bad response you domt know what compound is causing it and you wont know whta adjustments you need to make
Anonnow i have run tren once before but i had to stop because i got in an accident but i only ran for about 4 weeks total
tren a or e?if you have run it and feel its ok thats a decision yiu have to make yourself. Why didn't yiu mention it before?
Anontren e and i didnt mention it cause wasnt really counting it since i didnt run it all the way through and i also realize i shouldnt have messed with tren e until running tren a but whats done is done and the only sides i really experienced were a little insomnia but again i ran a long ester for only 4 weeks so idk if that was the full effect of the compound on my system
like I said the decision is on you. If it were me I would just run the test p var and tren a. That woukd be a serious cutter. I do respect you being open minded and doing all your research +2
If you can get primo for a good price it's probably fake. Go chek out the mass specs under pictures for primo. Well proced, totally fake.
Anonits genza
Personally I don't think all this gear is necessary for the majority of us . We don't compete, we don't get paid, we just wanna look good. You don't need test tren mast var to lose a little fat. You'd do just fine on prop and var and a great diet and some cardio and you will save yourself slot of money and potential health problems and shitty side effects. No point in usin the strongest steroid ever made for about 95% of us. Just my opinion tho. Better off spending that money you would have spend on tren on a great diet coach. That's what I did and my results have been insane since having this coach.