Tren/Mast/Test
Hey guys, I'd like some advice from experienced users here..
Competed in Mens Physique comps for 2 years now (5 shows) but need to pack on some size and hardness for 'higher quality' shows later in the year.
I want to run this cycle for 10 weeks then continue on test e (200mg week) and then repeat this cycle prior to comp
Current stats:
age: 31
height: 5"8
weight: 180lbs
bf: 4.6% (as of 3 weeks ago)
Now I thankfully respond well to low doses hence the numbers below (I don't see the point in running higher if I don't need to) (plan mon/thurs shots)
Weeks 1-10 Tren E - 400mg Week
Weeks 1-10 Mast E - 400mg Week
Weeks 1-26 Test E - 200mg Week
Weeks 20-28 Tren E - 400mg Week
Weeks 20-28 Mast E - 400mg Week
Weeks 1-28 HCG 250iu 2x a week (500iu)
Have prami, arimidex, clomid etc
Bloods, bp. bf % etc will all be monitored monthly
| Week | Test E | Tren E | Mast E |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 2 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 3 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 4 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 5 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 6 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 7 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 8 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 9 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 10 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 11 | 200mg | ||
| 12 | 200mg | ||
| 13 | 200mg | ||
| 14 | 200mg | ||
| 15 | 200mg | ||
| 16 | 200mg | ||
| 17 | 200mg | ||
| 18 | 200mg | ||
| 19 | 200mg | ||
| 20 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 21 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 22 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 23 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 24 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 25 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 26 | 200mg | 400mg | 400mg |
| 27 | 400mg | 400mg | |
| 28 | 400mg | 400mg |
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Gents. Just an update. Thanks for all the comments and feedback, due to which I've changed my mind and definitely won't be running this period of time. Figured the risk doesn't outweigh the results of more sensible cycles.
Thanks again for your time.
Plus one brother for making a great decision
Have you ever run blood tests to see what your levels are at bud? You mention you used to run a lot of Sust and deca cycles in your early twenties but I haven't seen a mention of follow up in your write ups or responses. I would check those levels before I started another cycle. SDM is on point with the recovery time and tren is a hard compound to run for so long.
Hey mate. Probably a bit of a dramatization on my point. U would hVe run maybe 3 12 week cycles over those years. It was all doctor prescribed and monitored and few months after bloods were fine
A 7 month cycle. Good luck trying to recover from that.
Why not just eat big and train hard and then do a short cycle before your next comp to get stage ready?
You're right. All the opinions on here have kind of made that clear. I won't be running this long. Cheers
Thumbs up brother glad to hear that
Long cycle = long recovery.
Might be a struggle bouncing back from this mate, I wouldn't fancy it! At early thirties now you're still a young guy, but you'll find your recovery after cycle is more gradual.
I'd definitely advise a rethink. Your previous use of short esters may be a plan to stick to.
I think that's going to be the general consensus.
Think I'll definitely need to rethink durations and running the test throughout.
Major comps next year as well so can't afford a long recovery time. Short and sweet cycles?
For competition prep shorts are the way I prefer personally. Problems are quicker to resolve, you know where you are faster etc.
If you need any help, drop me a line and we can tailor something got you in a bit more detail.
Thank you mate appreciated. Fr sent
Approved. Drop me a line anytime.
BetterOnTopIve ran this exact cycle at 550mg test a week for 5 weeks and seized masteron because I saw better results with 300mg/wk deca in replacement of the masteron. Mast E wont be needed the first 10 weeks and 400mg of tren/wk for the last 8 weeks is unnecessary considering your already at less than 5% bf
Are u not on trt. U plan on running a cycle for 28 weeks why use hcg after something like this u are highly likely to be on trt if u aren't now
Nah mate I'm not.. I can shorten it and come off and then back on before comp but assuming my bloodwork all came back okay due to the short duration of break I didn't see the point. But I am open to any changes on it.. So suggest away
In regards to long term test e use I found this .. Maybe it gave me a false sense of security http://www.nature.com/nrendo/journal/v2/n1/full/ncpendmet0069.html
Think u would really be pushing the limits of every been able to restore your hpta that's so long on just test then u throw tren in there and that shuts u down so hard what's your previous cycles look like
good point, early 20's I did quite a few cycles of sus/deca (when I had no idea what I was doing), test e (300 week) cycle last year made good gains and lost bf, year before did test/tren but diet was useless (at the time I thought it was ok).
Surprised your not on trt already.
Why do you say that mate?? Cycles I did in the past where only ever short and always did proper pct after. I won't start anything without pct/ai etc in hand.