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posted Fri, 07/25/2014 - 18:16
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Test E + Test P + EQ 16 Weeks Cycle - 4th Update

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Hello folks.

I'm going with this cycle for the next month... I already have the gear and PCT.. But still need AIs and some antibiotics in hand before to start.

I have a few questions about the PCT.
Should I ran aromasin till the end of PCT or till the end of half life of Test E?

I'm not running 19nor.. Should I run HCG during the cycle?

In the title of this cycle log.. I have put only Test E + EQ.. But what you think to run 4 weeks of winnfy for ending?

I'm around 16% of BF and have some more to burn before to start...
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 224lb

The diet is the key for sucess... I'm thinking to go with:

Carbs: 300gr
Protein: 500gr
Fat: 89gr

Something around of 4000 kcal... I'll increase as needed.

Training 5x a week.
Fasting cardio 5x a week.

I need to let register here that I'm type 1 diabetic.. So.. insulin is with me everyday.

Some people probably will say that I should't go with this cycle... but is something that I want to test is EQ.. lol Biggrin

I'll post some recent pictures later and will follow this steps for PCT: http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/how-to-succes...

UPDATE 1

I forgot to add the propionate....

UPDATE 2

Extended to 16 weeks of Test E and 14 of EQ.

Update 3

Added HCG to keep balls alive ;)

Update 4

Changed the winny's start to 4 weeks before the PCT.

I have been using my scale to get my BF%.. and I have decrease some bf.. following the scale.. but I was not sure if my eatsmart getfit was giving the accurate or some approx BF stats... then I got a caliper to get my accurate bf.. and was something that I was expecting... around 10%.

WeekTestosterone PropionateTestosterone EnanthateEquipoiseWinstrolAromasinNolvadexClomidHCG
1100mg600mg500mg12.5/EOD
2100mg600mg500mg12.5/EOD500ui
3100mg600mg500mg12.5/EOD500ui
4100mg600mg500mg12.5/EOD500ui
5600mg500mg12.5/EOD500ui
6600mg500mg12.5/EOD500ui
7600mg500mg12.5/EOD500ui
8600mg500mg12.5/EOD500ui
9600mg500mg12.5/EOD500ui
10600mg500mg12.5/EOD500ui
11500mg500mg50mg/ED12.5/EOD500ui
12600mg500mg50mg/ED12.5/EOD500ui
13600mg500mg50mg/ED12.5/EOD500ui
14600mg500mg50mg/ED12.5/EOD500ui
15600mg12.5/EOD500ui
16600mg12.5/EOD500ui
176.25/ED500ui
186.25/ED
196.25/ED40mg/ED100mg/ED
206.25/ED40mg/ED100mg/ED
2120mg/ED100mg/ED
2220mg/ED50mg/ED
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  • 07/26/2014 - 00:03

What's your goals for this cycle? Cut bulk recomp? It's hard to tell because of your macros.

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  • 07/26/2014 - 00:57

Are you a diabetic?

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  • 07/25/2014 - 19:06

What is your prior experience with aas? If any at all, needs to be mentioned first and then we can throw in some thoughts to help you out.

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  • 07/25/2014 - 19:34

I would run eq for at least 16 weeks as it won't really kick in until around 8 weeks. By doing that I would then run test 2 weeks past the equipment ultimately extending the cycle to 18 weeks. Eq can red blood cells significantly and you may have to give blood during the cycle. IMO I would try and get to the 10 to 12% BF range prior so you can see the full effects of the eq as well

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  • 07/26/2014 - 00:17

X2. +2 for good info. Defintely run atleast 16 weeks. And I would highly advise giving blood at week 8 and week 16. Get bloods week 8 to see what's up. Might even need to donate double reds. And I totally agree about starting the cycle leaner. It really makes it more fun seeing yourself grow instead of it being hidden under a layer of fat.

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  • 07/26/2014 - 00:59

If you can't extend don't run the eq. Not worth it IMO.16 weeks minimum 20 weeks is best. And your pct timing is so off it's crazy. Idk where you found that info. Start you pct 14-18 days after your last test injection. Your doses look good tho.

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  • 07/26/2014 - 05:40

Aromasin and hcg are two totally different drugs with different purposes. The only one I would no use hcg, and I still might would be of I was doing like an 8-10 week prop var or prop with some oral cycle. If it was prop tren them definitetl, and anytime I'm going over 10 or 12 weeks I'm gonna use hcg. I Persojally always use it. It's keep and it keeps your balls awake instead of being dormant or a long time so recoverry is easier . I would run 500iu twice a week starting the 2nd week and run it right up until 4 days before pct.

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  • 07/26/2014 - 17:02

Aromasin has a pretty short half-life, so ed dosing is better but its not uncommon for guys to do 12.5eod as opposed to 6.25ed. I would says 6.25 ed is better but if its more convenient for you go eod.

And as for the winny, I see this is your first time using both eq and winny. We typically dont advise introducing 2 new drugs in one cycle. Best to add one so you can gauge your response to it. But the fact your running it at the end changes things in my opinion, after 12 weeks on test and eq you will know how you respond. Thats 3 months thats a long time. So when you start the winny and get sides you'll know its from that. But dont do it how you have it set up in the middlle of the cycle thats pointless. Start it 4 weeks before you start pct. So you'll run it your last 2 weeks on test e and during the 2 weeks your waiting for pct then you'll start pct the very next day after your last winny dose.

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