posted Sun, 06/22/2014 - 02:03
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Current stats in profile....
Expect to recomp. Gain muscle loss fat on a 500calories increase. Lean bulk style low carbs higher fats and protein though. Using t3 and low dose hgh for shred at lowish dose and test for size mast for aesthetics and cuts. Anavar for strength finisher with low winny for cuts and vascularity. Liv52 in high gear and support supps magnesim saw palmetto and multi vita.
My concern here is with the orals double stacked. Second go with winny. First time I used too much and had joint pain so im low dosing this time ti see if it helps. Using lots of good fats omega 3 flaxseed and joint supps like glucosamine and MSM. Is that enough though? How.are your joints on winny??
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | masteron e | anavar | winny | t3 | hgh |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | 400mg | 50mcg | 3iu ED | ||
| 2 | 500mg | 400mg | 50mcg | 3iu ED | ||
| 3 | 500mg | 400mg | 50mcg | 3iu ED | ||
| 4 | 500mg | 400mg | 50mcg | 3iu ED | ||
| 5 | 500mg | 400mg | 50mcg | 3iu ED | ||
| 6 | 500mg | 400mg | 50mcg | 3iu ED | ||
| 7 | 500mg | 400mg | 50mcg | 3iu ED | ||
| 8 | 500mg | 400mg | 50mcg | 3iu ED | ||
| 9 | 500mg | 400mg | 60mg | 30mg | 50mcg | 3iu ED |
| 10 | 500mg | 400mg | 60mg | 30mg | 50mcg | 3iu ED |
| 11 | 500mg | 400mg | 60mg | 30mg | 50mcg | 3iu ED |
| 12 | 500mg | 400mg | 60mg | 30mg | 25mcg | 3iu ED |
| 13 | ||||||
| 14 | 200mg | TRT | cruise | |||
| 15 | ||||||
| 16 | ||||||
| 17 |
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AnonWhat sort of history do you have bro? I know it's a boring question but it's a big deal.
DHTmanLol its a shirter list to list what I haven't tried.....
Equipose
Halo
Dianabol
Winny kinda
.been on trt 2 years doctor prescribed...every other compound I can think of ive tried. But that was years ago. I use to love tren and clen fir shredding but tthese days I try to stick to more natural hormones like test and hgh with mild dht derivative steroids and recently t3 i talked ti my doc im getting some bloodwork in a week so ill know moree. ....
AnonGotcha. Catalyst is smarter than me on thyroid topics so listen to him. As far as the double oral goes why can't you run some injectable Winny? Keep dosages the same but extend the var to 6 and run injectable winny last four. Much easier to except that set up that the double oral even if it's listed for just four weeks. But some might say it's overkill. The var and mast should be more that enough. But I don't have a problem. Drop the test down a little to finish the cycle. Trt dose at end of cycle. Last four wks. Let the var and winny harden you up. Watch the hairline and prostate with all the dht.
DHTmanThank you brother ill update log tomorrow once I figure details out. Is inject winny any easier in joints than orals?
You are in for a real treat with injectable Winny. Please don't forget to report back after you use it and let us know how it all went. There is nothing quite like injectable Winny (water base) ! It's in a league by itself. It's not something you will ever forget.
Have you ever run winny and mast cause they both dry out your joints?
DHTmanIve used ALOT of mast prop up to 100mg ed and mast enanthate up to 800mg a week and never had joint issues. Thats why im perplexed why winny gives such bad joint pain even though its a SIMILAR (but not the same results) dht derivative. I can get uber dry looking on mast with no joint issues even though its a dht dervivative with the most minor AI affect on estro. But then again so is Primobolan and Anavar and they dont hurt my joints. But proviron also a dht derivative -although not anabolic- also gives me joint pain issues....
JHNo it is not. The winny joint pain is the same for most. You just get to save ur liver by going with injectibles.
Not liking your t3 and t4, 120mcg of levothyroxine is a big dose. To quantify there are people who have had a thyroidectomy that take that amount for complete replacement. I don't advocate the use of thyroid meds full stop, but you're running doses that are going to make you quite I'll potentially.
DHTmanShould I dose lower? Thanks for the feed back mate
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Dont stack orals. Not only is it dangerous, you would get much better results running one or the other at the proper dose. I have never used gh myself but I've read a lot about it and it seems the general consensus is to run it for atleast 6 months. I don't see any ai in there either. The water retention from the test is gonna really take away from the look your going for. And it can cause all kinds of unwanted side effects and not the mention the problems high estrogen in men can cause. I would add in either aromasin or adex at a dose that suits you. For me 6.25mgs of aromasin is plenty on that dose of test. And i see your stats in your profile but you don't have your bf listed. Mast really shines when your body fat is low so keep that in mind.
DHTmanmy bad I forget to add im using aromasin 6.25 mg ED and I use the hgh year round with trt test dose I just forgot to metion it. sorry brudda.
really so no extra benfits from stacking them :/ ??
if you could pick one or the other which would you go with?
I have a lot of experience with anavar but none really with winstrol. used once before but cut it out from joint pain at 50mg ed.....
No man not at all you can get the look you desire with just one of the two and the risk of shitting your liver out isn't as great. Orals are extremely toxic for the liver man even using one you will slightly damage your liver but it should recover, using two and you put your health at very serious risk. If you damage it past a certain point it will not regenerate. You can reach unbelievable levels of conditioning with just one, shit you can do it without any orals, but using one will Defintely help give a more vascular hard look. There's no point in using two. Your diet will determine the look you achieve not the drugs, they just help polish it off. Personally I don't have any experience with winstrol. I don't have any interest in it due to the joint pain and hair loss so I can't really help you there. I don't see much use of it unless you're competing and need to bring a certain extremely dry look to the stage. Then the joint problems might be kinda worth it but I still think you can get the with just var and not have to worry about the joint problems. I personally would use anavar. Depending on the lab you use will determine the dose you need. If it's real legit anavar 40-50mgs is all you need. But from some of these other ugls 60-100mgs ed will be necessary. I would run it a little longer then 4 weeks personally like 5-6. I see you have your liver support down but you gotta remember var is extremely harsh on lipids. So you shoul have a solid stack to keep those in check. I personally use 2400mg red yeast rice twice a day, 20mg of policansol once a day and 1400mg fish oil 3 times a day.
DHTmanDamn bro your absolutely right. Ima cut the winny out and stick with var. And I looked up those supps thats a great stack brother thanks im goona order them now. Red yeast rice seems like good stuff to have on hand all the time. That pretty much answer my questoins lol great post mate
That stack hAs been great for me. Keep everything in check on a run with an oral shahs known to trash lipids. And I used it off cycle and it brought my triglycerides down form like 140 down to 70. It also lowered my LDL significantly. Like you said great to run all the time.