posted Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:03
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
The goal if this cycle will be to polish off any left over body fat ,harden muscle and get vascular.Hopefully add a couple pounds of lean muscle too.My concern here is to not be tough rough on my body; blood pressure,liver toxic and suppression i would like to be limited.I also want it to be as short an effective as possible in the process.I have used these compounds before and have several cycle experience.My main question would be the amounts of each .I want to hit effective range with a little sides as possible.I think 8 weeks may be enough.I project being around 208 and under 10% body fat.I will also continur to run HGH at 2-4 iu depending on availability.I will try torem instead of tamoxifen in PCT
Week | Testosterone Prop | Primo Ace | Anavar | proviron | Arimidex | clomid | toremifene |
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1 | 150 mg EOD | 200mg EoD | 100mg ED | 50mg ED | 1mg EOD | ||
2 | 150 mg EO | 200mg EoD | 100mg ED | 50mg ED | 1mg EOD | ||
3 | 150 mg EO | 200mg EoD | 100mg ED | 50mg ED | 1mg EOD | ||
4 | 150 mg EO | 200mg EoD | 100mg ED | 50mg ED | 1mg EOD | ||
5 | 150 mg EO | 200mg EoD | 100mg ED | 50mg ED | 1mg EOD | ||
6 | 150 mg EO | 200mg EoD | 100mg ED | 50mg ED | 1mg EOD | ||
7 | 150 mg EO | 200mg EoD | 100mg ED | 50mg ED | 1mg EOD | ||
8 | 150 mg EO | 200mg EoD | 100mg ED | 50mg ED | 1mg EOD | ||
9 | 1mg ED | ||||||
10 | 40mg ED | 60mg ED | |||||
11 | 30mg ED | 45mg ED | |||||
12 | 20mg ED | 30mg ED | |||||
13 | 20mg ED | 30mg ED | |||||
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Are you prone to estrogen sides? Reason I ask is 1mg of Adex eod along with 50mg of proviron is a lot of e2 control.
RichTrayNo,I am actually not.I usually just keep it on hand and take it EOD if its needed.Usually proviron works pretty well for me.I was actually thinking about running proviron through post cycle and just using 1 product to kick start test.maybe a little HCG in between as well.If you have a suggestion in regards to that I would be happy to hear you thoughts.I have a hard time with Tamoxifen.Thank you
I would be very careful with those doses, if your running the proviron i would cut that adex dose down to .25mg eod and adjust from there. You do not want to crash your estrogen. I would get bloods around week 3 to see where your estrogens at and adjust from there.
Next, 8 weeks of var at 100mgs is pushing it a little, gotta be careful with that. Definitley get some tudca and liv52 plus a shitload of water everyday.
And your pct, like Kam said drop the proviron during pct, lot of conflicting research regarding if it keeps your suppressed or not, but logically if you think about it it is a hormone which will most likely cause negative feedback to your hypothalamus and pituitary resulting in your hpta staying shut down. So to be safe i would drop it. Im really surprised you have problems with tamoxifen and not clomid, usually its the other way around. But its fine, clomid and torem seems to work well, i dont know anything about torem so i cant help you there but i would suggest upping your clomid to 100mgs the first two weeks followed by 50mgs the second two weeks. Its been used time and time again and proven to give you the greatest chance of recovery.
RichTrayGreat advise and i will certainly go with you suggested course across the board.I will drop the proviron as well.Thanks a lot !
Leave the proviron alone after cycle. You're saying of your goals is not to beat on your body too much, then why keep running drugs (even though it's not that harsh) after past your cycle. Get in and get out. If you're using test prop then that is more then enough of a kick start for the average guy, it starts working fast enough. As far as blood pressure, liver issues and all that jazz it gonna depend on how your body reacts and your self discipline. Bad habits on cycle=increase chance of bad sides on cycle. I'll bs with you more later...I'm on my lunch. And you're gonna suppress your natural hormones no matter what...just make sure you have all the tools to try and restart it, nothing is guaranteed to come back, always remember that....risk vs. reward
RichTrayPerfect insight .Much appreciated.No doubt I will adjust accordingly.