Possible alternative to planned 2nd cycle...
I got a lot of excellent insight to my planned 2nd cycle (linked here: http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/2nd-cycle-13). Would love to still do it if things work out.
Goals, etc. are the same. However, due to work and other bullshit, I have been researching shorter cycles because I might only have 10-12 weeks including PCT because of international travel, which may occur frequently over the next years or so.
So, I Am curious about what the esteemed members of this site have to say about short ester cycles when timing might make long esters less useful. To be more specific, 8 weeks of Test Prop only instead of Test E with a Prop kicker and taper.
Not an aspiring pro, training and nutrition on point, goals are 10-15 pounds of muscle retained.
Please advise and thanks in advance for the feedback.
| Week | Testosterone Propionate | Aromasin | Clomid/Nolva |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 100 mg EOD | On hand... | |
| 2 | 100 mg EOD | ||
| 3 | 100 mg EOD | ||
| 4 | 100 mg EOD | ||
| 5 | 100 mg EOD | ||
| 6 | 100 mg EOD | ||
| 7 | 100 mg EOD | ||
| 8 | 100 mg EOD | ||
| 9 | 100/40 | ||
| 10 | 100/40 | ||
| 11 | 50/20 for last 2 weeks |
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RustyhookerI'm going against the grain here BUT we commonly post a prop kicker for second cycle. YES you can bulk on prop. It's 100% FOODS and bustin ass.
I'd look thoroughly at spotinjection.com first. Some prop can pip...post inj pain. 125eod is royghly same as 500 enanthate. Read my pip forum thoroughly as well. Pin sizes etc in that forum covers it.
Problems....pip and learning rotations. STERILITY is number 1. 8Weeks means 100% dedication! No errors! 8lbs is normal gained but it's all about foods.
Prop only.....so you can really feel estro,, androgens etc. Blood test week 3 for estradiol.
Read read and research. It's not impossible. If prop pip is too cumbersome, then update us
You guys are right. No need to rush this shit. I will either accommodate my originally planned second cycle or wait it out. Thanks for the honesty bros.
International travel makes things tough. I would imagine long esters would be your friend. Undec or sust you can get away with pining almost one every week to 10 days if something came up. I feel a short ester would be a waste. I feel a cycle in itself would be a waste if you can't plan properly. Everyone always say to plan plan plan. You can't wing it.
A short cycle typically doesnt fit with the idea of putting on and keeping 15 lbs. Im not saying it cant be done, but short esters and short cycles in general are typically cutters. If you really want to bulk it should be a longer cycle with an astounding amount of calories to go with it. Also, it sounds like the travel is a new thing for you. If you have such a big change in your life, you have to ask yourself. Are you going to be able to keep up the diet and training required to sustain the bulk you put on? Maybe right now isnt the best time to cycle, with your current goals. With that said, my opinion is your cycle doesnt match your goal.
My advice is to wait until you can do a full cycle then try and rush one. if you are saying 10-12 weeks include your PCT then its not really a good idea.