Next Cycle ... updated..again
I've ran test e, c, p, tne, sust, mast prop, eq, provi, dbol, tbol, var, drol, ummm I think that's it.
Not looking to blow up size wise, I'm not a bodybuilder. Gaining size wouldn't be a bad thing, just not my main goal. Hoping npp will help with the shoulders and protect them, while getting strength up.
ALRIGHT so I've decided due to this being my first run with a 19nor, I'd rather use short ester just in case I don't react well. And for test support being needed in the beginning I've decided to switch to sustanon and continue with prop the last couple of weeks for support while the longer esters fade out.
I've revised this cycle a hundred times since I first wrote it up. I'm working with an endocrinologist and won't be running this until he says everything is working the way it should. (I have high estro and he's trying to figure out why, I've been honest with him)....
NEXT update.... Doc is putting me on TRT so I probably won't be doing any pct.... unless I decide in the next few months that I want to make a baby.... I'll leave the pct in the plan for anyone looking for pct ideas.
| Week | Sust250 | Test Prop | NPP 150 | Dbol | Proviron | HCG | Cabergoline | Adex | Nolva/clomid | Aromasin |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | .8mlEOD | 50mg ED | 50mg ED | as needed | as needed | |||||
| 2 | ..8mlEOD | 50mg ED | 50mg ED | |||||||
| 3 | .8mlEOD | 50mg ED | 50mg ED | |||||||
| 4 | .8mlEOD | 50mg ED | 50mg ED | 250iu E3D | ||||||
| 5 | " | 300mg day 1, 150mg/EOday | 50mg ED | 250iu E3D | ||||||
| 6 | " | 150mg/EOday | 50mg ED | 250iu E3D | ||||||
| 7 | " | 150mg/EOday | 50mg ED | |||||||
| 8 | " | 150mg/EOday | 50mg ED | |||||||
| 9 | " | 150mg/EOday | 50mg ED | 250iu E3D | ||||||
| 10 | " | 150mg/EOday | 50mg ED | 250iu E3D | ||||||
| 11 | " | 150mg/EOday | 50mg ED | 250iu E3D | ||||||
| 12 | " | 150mg/EOday | 50mg ED | |||||||
| 13 | 80mgEOD | 50mg ED | 250iu E3D | |||||||
| 14 | 80mg EOD | 50mg ED | 250iu E3D | |||||||
| 15 | 80mgEOD | 50mg ED | 250iu E3D | END | ||||||
| 16 | 60mgEOD | 50mg ED | 12.5 | |||||||
| 17 | 40mgEOD | 50mg ED | 500iuEOD+ | 12.5 | ||||||
| 18 | 4 days after hcg | begins pct | 12.5 | |||||||
| 19 | 40/100 | 12.5 | ||||||||
| 20 | 40/100 | 12.5 | ||||||||
| 21 | 20/50 | 12.5 | ||||||||
| 22 | 20/50 | 12.5 | ||||||||
| 23 | 20/50 | 6.25 |
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P2i2tYep bud, I like your hcg cycle pattern...2 on, 2 off, 3 on, 2 off, 4 on, PCT...I have just always read to wait about 10 days after last HCG injection to begin PCT. You have listed here as 4 days. Not saying you are wrong and I am right but just wondering if that is what you have gained through studying or if you are just making a personal guess as how long to wait? I mean who really absolutely knows for sure? All we can do is research and make our best guess as to which process to follow.
Let's take this back over to the forum you started
P2i2tlol... That wasn't my post. I was just commenting on somebody else's post and you replied to me.
oh, whatever, I responded on that thread
After playing around with steroid calculators, I think I've settled with a cycle of dosages that will give the steadiest blood levels and have, mg for mg, around 2:1 test/npp.
Ddo you have experience with 19 nor and prami?
as stated above, it will be my first run with a 19nor. I'm going to try to get bloods, including prolactin, checked in the first 2-4 weeks and follow up bloods 4 weeks later. Can't get it done in my state, so it's a hassle, but necessary of course.
what about your prolactin support for the deca?
It's there...next to Adex....says Prami, as needed
If it is your first time with a 19nor, a suggestion might be to just run it solo with some test to see how it treats you.
I was thinking the same thing about that. I think I might drop the eq. I do like the benefit of the eq though, as far as the appetite stimulation and more importantly, the cardio benefit. However, I will seriously consider dropping it. I'm not running a cycle without proviron tho. And with the dbol stopped at only 4 weeks, the deca should just be kicking in, so I don't see a need to drop that.
Makwa is right on with this one. A general rule is only one new compound at at time. It's easy to get a little over-confident with cycling, but don't fall into that trap. Provi would be alright to add to the mix, but I would drop the rest for this run.