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+ 1 New cycle, input welcome

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

Age: 26.75
Weight: 215
Height: 6'

This will be my second run with Deca. I feel I am better prepared this run. Last time was @300mg week. I am looking to put on some solid lean gains with test, Deca, and a good clean diet. Constructive criticism is welcome. I have also posted a pre cycle pic. Please let me know what you think and show some love.
Thank eroids brother.

I have caber, letro, nolva, Clomid on hand if any on cycle issues arise.

WeekTest CypDecaNolvadexClomidTest PNPP
1600mg400mg
2600400
3600400
4600400
5600400
6600400
7600400
8600400
9600400
10600
11400
12400
13
14
15
16
1740mg/day100mg/day
40mg/day100mg/day
2050
2050
PRE CYCLE PIC: 
POST CYCLE PIC: 
gymjunkie12's picture

I like to run hcg once i stop the test simply because levels can drop pretty fast in those 2 weeks before pct. It keeps test level up and makes for a much smoother transition.

Leonidas1's picture

How do you feel about switching to prop and npp the last month so you can transition to pct in 3-4 days instead of 14-21 days?

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McMeanie87's picture

From what I've discussed with people the prop taper helps with the transitional crash and you can begin pct few days after last pin..also what gymjunkie was saying bout hcg, ive heard a 10 day 5,000iu hcg blast might also help out the transition also, at least make pct a little easier to go thru.

Leonidas1's picture

Sounds like the way to go. I have npp on the way and some of that good cln n clr prop on hand. I will order some hcg tomorrow.

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jsoc_rock's picture

Dude you need hcg in there deca or nandralone can be extremely harsh you may not have had problems with it last go around but this time you could. You never know! You also at that dose of Test should run AI throughout

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Thanks, I'm gotten good at controlling estro with low low doses of letro. I know I didn't include the AIs in the weekly planner lol but I'm going to be using then throughout. Thanks for the input bro +1

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jsoc_rock's picture

Thanks bro good deal!

propkick2's picture

Most people suggest running deca at least 14-16 weeks. Personally I wouldn't wait for prolactin sides before you started using your caber, be proactive not reactive.

McMeanie87's picture

And ur supposed to stop deca two weeks before u stop test and with test cyp u wait 18-21 days after last test shot to begin pct..come on bro I know ur capable or doing more research than u have..not sure what u meant by "prepared".. u may have all the compounds but the cycle is all mixed up man.

McMeanie87's picture

Why are u going to run more deca than test? Rule of thumb is to run more test... And no leave the other compounds alone bro..test and deca will blow u up enough..and ur pct is a little off unless that was ur intention

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Hey bud,

Thanks for bringing the pct schedule to my attention. I'm doing this in my iPhone so all these boxes are confusing, user error. I do realized test should be run equal or higher than Deca but I figured it would be enough to keep me functioning right, but thanks to your advice I have adjusted it. Thanks for your input and tough love. Look it over once again an let me know if I can get the mcmeanie stamp of approval.

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Catalyst's picture

Not equal or higher, general rule 2:1 test to deca ratio minimizes risk. Start dropping below 1.5:1 and a significant percentage will develop erectile dysfunction. Personally I stick to 2:1.

Don't underestimate deca, when it goes wrong it's messy.

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Thanks for the info. I will raise my test

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McMeanie87's picture

Haha..looks better for sure..I understand shit does get confusing on the phone..but I see alot of ppl that have crazy cycle proposals and are dead serious bout them..just don't want to see anybody fck themselves up i s all bro..one more thing..pct protocol calls for 100mg clomid 40mg nolva first two weeks then 50/20 last two weeks..so u were partially correct brother.

Leonidas1's picture

Adjusting now. Thanks for your help boss. I will post a post cycle pic after cycle and after pct. I'm using all dragon pharma oils so I'm hoping to get bloods and show how good this lab is.

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McMeanie87's picture

I been debating on making an order for dragon compounds but think I'll stick with all Balkan for my winter bulk..I already have most of what I need..good luck bro on the cycle.+1

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