My current cycle
im 31 about 5'6" right now about 205....im a competitve bodybuilder im on diet i follow and have cheat meal every couple days so im faily lean...what i wana do is just build muscle not trying to bulk or lean jus wana grow quality muscle..im hoping i can keep estrogen under control thats my main concern w the anadrol and when i go up to 750 mg test....i do hav letro on hand jus incase....im also gna start on gh im recieving tmrw i got a 200 Iu hyge that i plan on doin 4iu mon-fri...will prob get more but i at least have that 200 iu kit to try out...this is week one on my cycle so ill prob wait for wk 2 to start the gh..the pic is from today so i post cycle pic will be way down the road but i will post up pics along the way to show how im progressing....this is only my cycle info i will throw in hcg during my cycle when i feel its time and will do pct of course when im done and im taking pills for liver and organ protection...nothin is concrete if im not feelin right or i feel gyno coming on there will def be a change this is what im panning on doing as long as everything goes smooth
| Week | T cyp | anadrol | Taxus | EQ | T prop | tren E |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 250mg | 50mg day | 20mg day | 250mg | ||
| 2 | 250 | 50mg day | 20mg day | 250mg | ||
| 3 | 500mg | 50mg day | 20mg day | 500mg | ||
| 4 | 500mg | 50mg day | 20mg day | 500mg | ||
| 5 | 500mg | 5omg day | 20 mg day | 500mg | ||
| 6 | 750mg | 50mg day | 20 mg day | 500mg | ||
| 7 | 750mg | 20mg day | 500mg | |||
| 8 | 750mg | 20mg day | 500mg | |||
| 9 | 500mg | 20mg day | 500mg | |||
| 10 | 500mg | 20mg day | 500mg | |||
| 11 | 20mg day | 500mg | 100mg eod | 400mg | ||
| 12 | 20mg day | 500mg | 100mg eod | 400mg | ||
| 13 | 20mg day | 500mg | 100mg eod | 400mg | ||
| 14 | 20mg day | 500mg | 100mg eod | 400mg | ||
| 15 | 20mg | 500mg | 100mg eod | 400mg |
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RustyhookerAdjust your layout to roid noids suggestion. Your numbers and timings are off base.
Wow Lot goin on here. Xman u are right that no one knows your body as good as u but eriods is a great place. U have had some success doin cycles like this that doesn't reach its full potential. I won't argue if it's right or wrong as there's no need in this your a grown man. U will do what u choose But I will add that gentleman like Vike noid and gear head are a wealth of knowledge. Now step back a moment and think about this u have had good success running cycles like the above. Eriods is a great place we truly care bout poeple. I will go out on a limb if u can convince those gentleman to tweak this cycle u will undoubtedly have the greatest success u have ever had before. These guys are legitimate gurus that live and breath this bro. Step back a minute and have an open mind and u will be setup with the greatest success to date. Just my thoughts on this situation I don't have a lot to add most been said. Knowledge is power bro and believe me these gentleman are legit in every aspect
xmanmuscleu def right bro thats def a mybad situation lol
It's all good bro I understand how easy it is to feel attacked but truly no one here wants u to fail. Eriods is the best site hands down. People here live and bleed this and will go out of there way to help anyone. U are missing out with the above cycle imo but I'm not here to preach brother. I want u to excel. U have a lot of potential and I promise u they will set u up with one hundred percent success.
you will make some gains on this cycle, but not as much as if you ran it right. My guess is you have ran bad cycles before based on the placement of compounds, ramps, and wrong esters, but made some gains and dont know the difference yet in what a well planned out cycle can do for you.
But you sounds like this is how your gonna run it so not much else to say. probably shouldnt post cycles if your not interested in critique or learning. Good luck with the cycle.
xmanmuscleive very much down for help instead your wrong your wrong your wrong...so im down for a critique what would be a better way to do the cycle with the gear ive listed if it looks good im more than willing to giv a try
Well, bro, saying there is no right or wrong way to do things that involve chemicals does not exactly make you appear eager to learn anything. Most of us here that are a little older are just here to teach to make you more successful and also to spot anything that could present a health danger. Eroids is different that way. We actually watch each other's backs where possible.
xmanmuscleHey get in the convo w us...what do u think about the dosages...all help is welcome
Appreciated bro. Let Noid finish this out. He's really good at cycle design and too many cooks in the kitchen just gets messy.
the ramp ups of cyp and EQ are a waste of time and gear, its a very outdated method, start them off strong right from the beginning. save the tamox for PCT and run adex, aromason, or small doses of letro if needed during cycle. I rarely use an Ai during cycle but if your estro prone and know it then be ready to run them.
the tren-e at the end of the cycle is useless, it will start to kick after 3 weeks and reach full plasma levels right as you stop it. the only thing its gonna do is make for a harder recovery of your natural test.
the length of your anadrol is a little longer then I would run it, 4 weeks is a play it safe number. If you like, (which I do myself on the few times I run orals), the synergy of orals and injects together then start the anadrol at week 3 and run it to week 7
the cycle would be fine if you made those corrections and concentrated on diet.
however keep in mind that the long ester of cyp would be fine and easier running straight through to the end, rather than switching to the prop ester.
xmanmusclehow many mg do u think of the eq and the cyp weekly....n do u think I should run the tren e start maybe when I get off the anadrol and run from like 7-15 mixed w the tren and eq that's what I was kinda thinking also...and I stopped the nolv and actually started small dose of letro today cus I am prone when I mix 3 compounds sometimes I don't wana risk it
what is your experience with tren-e? what have you ran it with or have you?
xmanmuscleIve ran those both w it before i like it and my body responds well to it usually 2 cc a wk split dosages...but on the t and eq they both 250 mg per ml....i can do the 750 cyp i feel thats a max for me and eq i was jus gona do 2 cc's split a wk whic would be 500....do u think i should do like a m.w.f with the cyp and eq from the beginning all the way through....
So this is where im at with the compounds, experience, current weight and estro sides.
running 3 compounds at once has nothing to do with estro sides, its the compounds that your running that has everything to do with estro. EQ does not convert to estro, tren-e does not convert to estro, anadrol and test does. Personally I would drop the anadrol so you will likely not need to run an anti estrogen blocker. with the tren in there we can lower the test dose and still have a strong anabolic androgenic cycle.
EQ and test are both well known to increase tren sides, EQ specifically increases my anxiety on tren. Ive ran this very cycle several times now, with low test 200mg/w and it was a great cycle.
So I would propose
test-c 500mg/w 1-16
EQ 500mg/w 1-14
tren-e 300mg/w 6-16
keep an Ai on hand, and prami or caber for the tren(19nor) and only use if needed
PCT starts week 19-23
clomid 100/100/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20
xmanmuscleThat looks pretty good gna follow it...thnks appreciate
bigwillyFrom a guy that knows nothing, wouldn't caber be like a standard manditory. That's what the fellas tell me.
bro caber is good 2 have ON HAND but you should never start using it right off the bat the damage it can do to your heart etc....If estro is controlled prolactin can be kept in check....A lot of people wanna use every drug under the sun 2 combat side effects before they even appear....never once thinking about the possible side effect/damage these other drugs can bring to the table
xmanmuscledoin it my way...theres no right or wrong way everyone is diff and what wrks for you might not wrk for me and vice versa
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heres a guy who died on here because he wanted to do it his way cause his way was best. I guess not having a dopamine agonist isn't needed for 19 nors I guess all the pros and fellow competitors and all the research is wrong. the only way you can keep shit straight without using a dopamine agonist is if you keep your estrogen perfect and even that isn't guaranteed , and damn sure isn't guaranteed with you because you haven't the slightest clue about your blood work your just going to wing it with letro. I guess we should all just follow you. your using all this shit and using it wrong and your not that much bigger than me and im willing to bet I haven't used half the shit you have that's a bet. you need to realize people are trying to help your fucking ass.
xmanmusclebro test and tren eod will not kill somebody ....side effects maybe some acne some gyno cant get it up but don't tell me you really think that someone passed away from a test tren and eq cycle....and that's my cycle so as you can see i don't take that much ....so i bet its the other way around u prob take way more than me and still don't look as good...JUST DROP IT ALREADY PEOPLE i get it im all wrong ok thnks let me be wrong and u be right
no I didn't say that test and tren killed him bro, his lack of research and going ahead and doing it his way did. ive used test and one oral bro and I ve won multiple natural shows bro before I ever decided to use gear. I was 202 naturally , that's a polygraph and blood work at every show, than I had my son and took time off so no your wrong once again. see I do research on the compounds , and know how to run them before I run them , I have my cycle all planned out off of common fucking knowledge if your in this life style , common knowledge like you don't just wing shit and hope you get your estrogen right, that running 19 nors while letting your estrogen get out of control will not only give you gyno but will make you lactate, I research my esters unlike you have done here tapering up your dosages when they are long estered compounds and need to build up before you even feel them, im sure youll be yelling a week into your cycle you feel the test e, and eq right? im sure you have no clue about the high rbc and hemocrit that will make your blood pressure go through the fucking roof and you can end up having a stroke or heart attack and bleeding in your lungs like another member had here, but you know all that don't you ???? you go right ahead and do it your way buddy , another bostin in the making just running whatever how ever just winging shit going by how it feels , and what he thinks is right instead of putting research into shit like some one educated would. but by all means do you , the rest of the whole site must be wrong , and the guys here who could literally eat you must not know what their doing either.
xmanmuscleyou've used test and one oral than you hav no idea what the f im talkin about.....i don't care how many books or internet sites you've read.....sorry bro its the truth
Lol your 205lbs now so probably 170 max on stage and used all kinds of gear and tony was 202 on stage naturally. I think he knows exactly wtf he's talking about.
and I don't have any idea what your talking about and neither does anyone else on this site or in this post cause everybody knows your cycle is a train wreck the only two guys who were still trying to help you realize you were fucking up with a ton of true statements and facts just left and it was me and gearhead and your a troll lol. you could pass as bostin loyds brother the way you act , with all the " I know it all, im going to do it my way, more more more "
cause you know it all an you weigh 8 pounds less , and your an inch shorter running a ton more gear thank you have a nice day bro try a different site tomorrow lol
xmanmusclei hope u not sayin 8 pounds less than u...brooooo....quaaaaality lol....man im just messin w u im laughin this whole time i hope u aint all mad
whatever floats your boat dude, I could care less bro what you do but here on this site your going against everything it stands for, and the guys who truly are monsters on here who are pros in real life will get a hell of a laugh out of your shit , because you really are what is infecting bodybuilding as a whole smh
xmanmuscleawwwww your still goin lol.....bro i don't care like what you hav to say anymore like you don't care what i hav to say cmon man lol
bigwillyI can't comment on what's right or rong since I'm just a guy trying to stay strong and look half decent but the guy you going around with is highly respected around hear.
xmanmuscleall in good fun bro no hard feelings.... yeh same here jus tryin to stay strong and look good for the ladies