posted Sun, 08/24/2014 - 20:44
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33yrs old lifting 18yrs. 5'8 197lbs 12%bf. 3rd cycle 1st test. 2nd test & eq. Did 3 PH cycles before that. Looking to gain quality muscle. diet is in check. I was going to just run prop, mast, npp the whole way eod but realized thats too much to put in 3 ml, that why my ratio is not 2.1. can only fit so much & 3ml rod is a lot of oil. I am considering going ed after week 4 just to reduce oil & then I can run better ratios?
| Week | Testosterone prop | NPP | Masteron | T-Bol | Aromasin | Prami | HCG | Clomid | Nolva |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | 400mg | 40ed | 12.5ed | .125ed | ||||
| 2 | 500mg | 400mg | 40ed | 12.5 | .125ed | ||||
| 3 | 500mg | 400mg | 60ed | 12.5 | .25ed | ||||
| 4 | 500mg | 400mg | 280mg | 12.5 | .25ed | ||||
| 5 | 500mg | 400mg | 280mg | 12.5 | .375ed | 500iux2 | |||
| 6 | 500mg | 400mg | 280mg | 12.5 | .375ed | 500iux2 | |||
| 7 | 500mg | 400mg | 280mg | 12.5 | .5ed | 500iux2 | |||
| 8 | 500mg | 400mg | 280mg | 12.5 | .5ed | 500iux2 | |||
| 9 | 500mg | 280mg | 12.5 | .5ed | 500iux2 | ||||
| 10 | 100 | 40 | |||||||
| 11 | 50 | 20 | |||||||
| 12 | 50 | 20 | |||||||
| 25 | 10 |
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I guess lean bulk is the wrong verbiage, Im looking at more of a recomp get down to 10%bf (or9) & gain a solid 10 lbs of lean body mass. My last cycle I got up to 215 bloated it was a bit much...so then would ten be the best range? Only reason I had in the mast was to finish off shredded...
Drop the mast... why is tbol at 60mg the 3rd week? 40mg would give you the results you wanted I imagine... but a real bulker would use dbol and use the rest of the time to control the bloat.
Optimal range is 8-10 for short esters when used for a cut, but youre trying to bulk.. give yourself the extra 2 weeks to really get the bang.
Opinions opinions. Everyone has one I guess. Good luck with your cycle.
Im doing shorts because I don't fancy the bloat I get on long esters & I don't mind pinning eod. Isn't 12 weeks on short esters a bit much? I thought the optimal range was 8-10?
x2 on 12 weeks
I agree with the guys below, prop/npp will give you what you want. I don't see any point in using mast anyways. And like gearhead said extend it to 12 weeks this is a bulk and adding real muscle takes some time.
I think your cycle is too short. I would extend it to 12 weeks. I wouldn't do shorts either.
Introducing too many new compounds all at once - npp, mast and tbol. You have no idea how you react to any of them, what happens if something goes wrong? Four compounds for a third cycle is too much IMO, especially considering your methods regarding the ratio of test to npp.
My advice is to simply run prop / npp.
I agree with Catalyst. prop and npp should yield great results at those dosages