posted Tue, 11/11/2014 - 19:58
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Just want to safely grow outside my genetic limits.Havent moved in 4 months of perfect diet and work regimen.
This is my third cycle.only been test with an oral past. Ran cyp 400/dbol and test e500/dbol last 2. I am about 6 ft and 210 ,around 13% BF.I want to see how much bigger i can get.
| Week | Sustanon | T-bol | Exemestane | Nolva/Clomid |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | 50mg | ||
| 2 | 500mg | 50mg | 12.5 EOD | |
| 3 | 500mg | 50mg | 12.5 EOD | |
| 4 | 500mg | 50mg | 12.5 EOD | |
| 5 | 500mg | 50mg | 12.5 EOD | |
| 6 | 500mg | 12.5 EOD | ||
| 7 | 500mg | 12.5 EOD | ||
| 8 | 500mg | 12.5 EOD | ||
| 9 | 500mg | 12.5 EOD | ||
| 10 | 500mg | 12.5 EOD | ||
| 11 | 12.5 EOD | 40/60 | ||
| 12 | 12.5 EOD | 40/60 | ||
| 13 | 20/40 | |||
| 14 | 20/40 | |||
| 15 | ||||
| 16 | ||||
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AnonI agree with Irish, I think 60mg is a good starting dose. I have run it up to 80mg and that seems to be the sweet spot for me. I've also run it at 60mg for 6 weeks and had great results as long as its quality TBol. IMO you can probably run it either at the beginning or end, its not going to hit hard like A-bombs or anything but its steady, quality gains that are easier to maintain throughout a cycle. Personally Ive never run it at the end of a cycle, but would be interested in trying it. Usually if I wanna harden up a bit Ill run some var at the end, but TBol could be a good option if you are concerned about price perhaps.
tbol needs to be at minimum 60mg a day and you should run it the last few weeks of your cycle not the 1st. Tbol is a hardener and also lowers your shbg a little.
AnonI love T Bol, its my fav oral, underrated IMO but maybe I just react very well to it.
250 iu twice a week once you notice they've shrunk. For me happened Week 5.
rocketballzYep. Don't need it right away since it takes awhile for the test to kick in. Some say for a 10-12 week cycle you don't need it at all but I disagree. I think its good practice to keep the balls working, even if it is artificially through use of hcg. Just stop the hcg prior to pct. HCG can keep the negative feedback loop going in pct and that's not what you want, bit I understand others may differ.
Agreed. +1
In my opinion it is better to keep them turned on with low dose HCG. From all the posts I have read during the last 4 months most guys say it makes for an easier recovery.
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rocketballzI'm not sure what the half life of sus is but the period between last pin and PCT may need to be extended by a week; a vet would know better than me. I would also consider doing HCG twice a week at 250-500 iu's per shot to keep the balls working. Your PCT is screwed up. Standard pct protocol is 100mg clomid, 40mg Nolva for first two weeks then 50/20 the last two weeks. Overall looks reasonable based on your cycle history and stats. Good luck bro! If your gear is dosed correctly you should get through that plateau.
Yes, you want to wait at least 20 days with Sust.