posted Sun, 09/07/2014 - 13:08
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Good Ol' Winter Bulker
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
I'm currently 5'10" at abouty 184 pounds and am pretty lean at this point....full 6 pack abs. maybe around 8% bf. I am starting PCT for a test only Sust cycle that I ran over the summer time and then I'll take another month or two off before starting up a short 8-10 week winter bulk cycle. I'd like to run long esters during this even though it will only be 8 weeks, or 10 weeks at the most as I've seen better results from deca than npp. I have used all of these compounds before just not in this exact combo. I'm mostly looking to gain lean weight with just a small amount of bodyfat increase.
Aromasin run at 6.25mg per day or higher if needed. Caber on hand but I really don't want to use it unless I feel the need to.
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Deca | Dbol | HCG | PCT Tabs |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 750mg | 375mg | 30mg | ||
| 2 | 750mg | 375mg | 30mg | ||
| 3 | 750mg | 375mg | 30mg | ||
| 4 | 750mg | 375mg | 30mg | 500iu | |
| 5 | 750mg | 375mg | 500iu | ||
| 6 | 750mg | 375mg | 500iu | ||
| 7 | 750mg | 375mg | 500iu | ||
| 8 | 750mg | 375mg | 500iu | ||
| 9 | 750mg | 500iu | |||
| 10 | 750mg | 500iu | |||
| 11 | 500iu | ||||
| 12 | 500iu | ||||
| 13 | 500iu | ||||
| 14 | 76.5mg x 4wks |
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STATS ON HIS PROFILE..with all this being said below I am gonna ad my 2 cents in.. I would extend my test E out to a 14 week and run my decca to 12 weeks to get full effect. up your decca to 500 mg a week and lets roll decca takes a while to take effect and for you to get the maximum effect it needs to be run longer, but it does take longer to clear your system so that why you stop it 2 weeks before you stop your test so once you stop the test and are ready to pct it has cleared your system and your ready. caber is good to have on hand but you prob wont need it at these dosages now everyone is different your body might react different so deff have it on hand, also do you have extra nolvadex on hand in case your gyno prone make sure you have extra incase you need to take it and you don't short your self on PCT.. AND REMEMBER IF YOUR GONNA BULK THEN BULK DONT WORRY ABOUT ADDING SOME FAT.. EAT !!!!!!EAT!!!!!! EAT!!!!! WITH OUT THE FOOD ALL THE COMPOUNDS ARE WORTHLESS
Food intake is my biggest issue however ghrp's really have helped in that department if I choose to use them. If not I end up using a lot of shakes to make up the difference. I've run deca for 10 weeks before and had good results with it....never tried something shorter than that. Basically if I run it longer it will just delay my summer cycle, which maybe is ok.
Also....what do you mean by Stats on his profile?
exactly what it means height weght age on your profile... shakes do not and should not be used as a src of food intake only if you want to maximize the bulk you gotta eat and eat big . they should only be used as a extra bonus or when you absolutely have no other choice
I have stats on my profile.....
Yes I eat as much as I can however people are built different and eating a ton of food isn't always possible for me. Shakes are used to fill in the gaps.
Bro, u r running the classic BB bulking stack. It is a WET stack. When it is all properly organized you will be gaining A LOT of water weight with this. Be prepared. But, GH, I can really dial in my diet and keep E2 real low. I recommend you do those things, for sure. But, even then, get ready for waterworks. You are gonna get strong, you are gonna blow up. 6 pack abs at the end of this? You might see the outline of your abs with all the bloat. But, no worries, the water will come off in time.
If he keeps his diet in check then he still would be able to gain lots of size and minimal bodyfat, the water is temporary and will come off right? I mean if he wanted to appear super lean the whole cycle then this would not be the right one, but as far as keeping fat low he has to watch cals
Im cool with some water weight. Dbol has always been my oral of choice so I am used to the temporary bloat. I actually have been considering trying out Anadrol instead some time since I've ran dbol 3-4 times and wouldn't mind trying it's main competitor for a comparison on myself. Ever run Drol?
All the time. Going over 100 mg / day is diminishing returns, however. You can run drol on this - I really wouldn't go over 3 weeks. On this run, it's the deca that's gonna pull the water in.
No caber? No AI?
Good catch, I completely missed that.
Thanks bro!
I will be using aromasin as I always do actually.
Caber on hand but I'd like to avoid using it.
You don't just take another month or two off, how long was your cycle of sust? 8-10 weeks? Plus the 3 weeks you wait before pct plus 4 week pct so you're looking at 15-17 weeks off before you start your next cycle plus you haven't even started your pct. So from today you should wait 19-21 weeks to start your next cycle if you value your health and want to do things right. Time on+pct=time off. So this is early feb.
Now on to your cycle. Doses look good but legnth is way off. Deca can't be run for 8 weeks it takes probably 6 to fully peak in your blood leaving you with two weeks of peak blood levels to make gains. Minimum would be 12 weeks of deca and run the test 2 weeks longer so 14. Besides that I think 3 weeks Is a little to long to wait for pct from test e, 14-18 days max would be my advise. And the pct blend you're using you need to add another 50mgs of Clomid and 20mgs of nolva the first 2 weeks and then after that you're fine just taking one of those pills ed. I wouldn't recommend taking 2 ed either because that will give you way to much aromasin to be taking with zero testosterone in your body. It will surely tank your estrogen.
cliffs:
Take proper time off
Fix the cycle length
Fix pct
Then get big
I am aware that I don't take enough time off but my body is my livelihood so I basically take as much time off as I can but I have to stay in shape for certain things throughout the year. I am in my mid 30's now so am not super scared of TRT but I am still trying to go with a pct and then taking as long of a break as I can but it won't be as long as recommended.
Also just wondering, how long do you suggest to wait after a 750mg/week Sustanon cycle for PCT?
3 weeks due to the deconate ester in the sust.