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29 years old, 14 years of training, 5'11" 205 lbs. 10-12% body fat
I basically want to improve some lagging body-parts (biceps, calfs, hamstrings and rear-delts), and gain a solid 15 lbs. If I hit 220 lbs. I am going to taper down the diet and focus on staying hard and lean
will be shooting for 3,200 calories/day 40/40/20 macro breakdown (This is actually about 500 calories more than I consume to maintain my weight, I hate doing cardio except for hitting the heavy bag for a few rounds post-workout)
I had some puberty-related gyno when I was a kid, Doctor told me I had "breast-buds" so I'm a little concerned about developing a gyno problem, I am going to take .25/EOD of Adex to prevent any flare-up and also to keep me dry.
Again, I would like to see 220 but I don't want to get bigger than 230. I am mostly concerned with adding mass to my biceps, calfs and correcting some muscular/postural imbalances in my rear delts and hams
This is my first cycle and I've never done prohormones
Pinned my first test300 dose this morning, my ass is a little sore but nothing to bitch about. Feedback is greatly appreciated especially in regards to the adex dosing.
I'm going to have to split the fucking pill into fourths so I was wondering if I might be able to do .5mg/every 3rd day
I don't want to do a half eod bc I've heard it can crash your estrogen completely and I like f*#king my wife
| Week | Test E 300 | Clomid |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | 600mg | |
| 2 | 600mg | |
| 3 | 600mg | |
| 4 | 600mg | |
| 5 | 600mg | |
| 6 | 600mg | |
| 7 | 600mg | |
| 8 | 600mg | |
| 9 | 500mg | |
| 10 | 600mg | |
| 11 | 600mg | |
| 12 | 600mg | |
| 13 | ||
| 14 | ||
| 15 | 50 | |
| 16 | 50 | |
| 17 | 25 | |
| 18 | 25 |
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So IDK if its just placebo or not, but today is the start of week 3 and my squat has jumped significantly from last week and what I've been doing lately.
I used to be really strong in the squat but recently, nagging issues had set back my develop, but today I was squatting like I haven't been able to do in about a year.
Also, my libido is through the roof. I feel like I could fuck and kill everything. Should I expect for shit to kick even harder in week 4 and 5? This is an unreal feeling.
Also, I have heeded all you sages' advice and scored me some clomid and letro. I don't have any gyno issues and I'm getting labs tomorrow. I currently have adex and still have that perfect PCT on hand as well all though for this run I will just use clomid in PCT.
If I do start seeing some e-sides should I try the arimidex or the letrozol first?
Thank you all.
Letro should be your last resort. Stick with the Adex.
You need to do blood work during cycle to determine your AI is dosed properly. It is cheap. It might take you 4 blood tests to get it dialed in. It is worth the money.
I'm getting blood work done next week and every 4 weeks thereafter.
I've decided not to use the adex unless I spot some puffy or swollen nips or other potential high estro signs.
interestingly, although I just did my first pin 2 days ago, my nipples actually look less puffy than usual.
Also, How long does pip last? My ass is still a little tender. Its not a big deal its just annoying at bedtime. My source uses grape seed in the oil, I'm guessing that's the culprit.
You might need AI around day 16. You need to worry about more than puffy nipples. High estrogen makes you feel like shit. Go ahead and tell us you injection procedure. I want to make sure you are doing things correctly.
Wiped the bottle, drew from a 20g. Wiped the upper outer quarter of my glute. Removed the larger needle and placed a 22 g 1" needle and pinned into the top outer quarter of my glute above the hip.
I remembered to squirt a little out before I shot and also to roll the needle to remove air. It went smoothly and I felt no pain at all until later in the day. I also remembered to draw back the plunger a bit to ensure no blood.
its actually feeling a bit better since I've been up and moving. The pain just feels like someone punched me but there's no bruise
I would try a 23g 1.5" next time. Also I would try warming the oil up with hair dryer. Some times you get lucky and get pip,sometimes its just the gear not mixing well with you, and sometimes it is just bad gear. Make sure your gear is not cloudy or have any floaty stuff in it.
the gear looked really clear and I did check for particles in it and I didn't see any. It looked almost pharmaceutical grade with the exception that the label on the bottle was a little scrunched. Is that normal?
The source I bought it from is a top rated source on this site, I think I just have a virgin muscle issue and like I said, the pain isn't that bad, it only annoys me when I contact the area. It feels like a slight bruise.
Tomorrow I will try warming it with the blowdryer. Also, I already kind of feel like I could nail a lot of chicks I never felt that way about and also that I could eat anything you put in front of me. Could that just be a sign that the test has already started to work?
I am sure the oil is fine. If you can nail a bunch of chick you should get to nailing. lol
lol my wife will have to do, its just funny that my d*ck wants girls that I thought were like a 5 or 6 before.
BTW, I pinned my other glute this morning and thus far, I don't feel a thing thus far. My other side is fine now too.
good deal
Lmao thumbs up that might b the best advice on here iv seen
All advice from me is gold lol
Shit I'm still laughing just read it again
roughneck12Drop test down to 500mg a week. Aro used in PCT cut nolva back 20/20/10/10 . But as for this cycle it is alright. Start week 4 with Aro at 6.5 eod and bump to ed if nipples get sore are lumps appear.
I can't drop test to 500 because I have test 300/ml and I don't want to have to estimate amounts inside of my syringe
roughneck12600 is fine brother. I just suggest lowest dose that works . Minimum amount to get results. Trust me I tried crazy shit and I know better now.
This is a question to the community I am curious about if u use aro in your pct shouldn't u cut your Nolva in half I'd like to hear everyone experiences both ways
It is a good question for discussion but lets not hijack this guy's cycle log
Sorry brother it has to do with his cycle how he has his cycle wasn't trying to hijack it sorry
No problem my bad than I misread
It just seems to me on his first cycle running aro 12.5 ed and nolva at 40 would b way to much and I was really interested what some higher ranking members like yourself sir would have to say on this matter on the behalf of this gentlemans pct
I agree I am on TRT so I am fortunate to not have to use pct. But I do know about it. You are correct 12.5 everyday will not end well most likely. Aromasin being a suicide ai can crash you very easy especially if you over estimate your estrogen build up. Not to mention me and a lot of the other vets are believers in using the bare minimum of ai because it can inhibit your gains.
The way I use aromasin is by instinct and blood work. Because excessive levels of estrogen is not the same for men as too much testosterone. But I will tell you as one who has crashed my e2 levels twice I would rather have mine a little high than crashed personally. So go ahead you have a valid point in guiding him here. Your take on his pct is correct and as you know that first pct sucks usually anyways so helping him with that may be more important then even the cycle
If you don't mind elaborating about your personal health situation, are you on TRT BC of natural age progression or BC of exogenous hormone usage?
What's the downside to TRT?
I ask BC I'm thinking of trying to game my endocrinologist into putting me on TRT.
I apologize if I'm intruding too much into your personal life
I don't mind. It is because of age I did use hormones before TRT except one brief 3 week or so cycle when I was 21 and I quit do to the sides being disastrous for me. When I went on TRT my test levels were in the 600 range. I was tired all the time my joints were in pain. appetite was very little and energy levels were low. Now some may say 600 is ton high for TRT but it depends on the individual. Once I started getting my 200mgs a week of cyp all of those things went away. I have been in special forces for over 23 years and was a professional Thai Boxer as well as a Triathlete. So I have used my body to its fullest.
I am a believer obviously that different individuals require different levels of testosterone to maximize their health and well being. Now as far as me doing cycles which I do that is out of pure desire and experimentation on my part. Do I need it to be healthy no I don't but I like learning a seeing if I can tweak and optimize the benefits. Also when I cycle I am probably the most or at least one of the most conservative users here. I attempt to maximize the most with less so as to not saturate my system.
Thank you for your service. I was a 35N for 4 years and did 2 tours in Khandahar and Mosul. I rolled out with Rangers all the time for secret squirrel shit.
Anyway, Wow...my serum test last time I checked was in the mid 400s and my Endo told me that was normal, but given that I am a Type 1 diabetic I've often felt easily fatigued, and my strength and mood would wax and wane. I have read publications which show that diabetes can low T are correlated, a big reason why I am experimenting with gear now.
I was also on the III Corps combatives team and was the 3rd ACR 178 lb. boxing champion back in the day. I go hard too.
Thank you for your help and I will be sending you a friend request.
You as well brother we have chewed on the same sand! I am USSOCOM with the teams. We have much in common as well as with our hormone issues it seems.
Yes it all depends on the endo and their opinion. I was fortunate enough to get one that understood that the so called normal range has a large span to it. So what really is normal? He started me on 100mgs of test c a week and then topped off at 200mgs. The difference after that was not even comparable. I would have had to put in my papers if not for the TRT & HGH.
FR accepted hit me up anytime brother, I will tell you what know or send you to the great vets here who have helped me tons.
I wanna thank both u gentleman for serving our country
I'm using 'Perfect PCT' which is a blend of Clomid/Aromasin/Nolvadex at 50/6.25/20mg per tab, I was planning on taking 2 tabs/day for 2 weeks and then 1 tab/day for the last two weeks of PCT. But I am re-considering using only one tab/day. Thoughts?
I get the concept behind the blend pct personally it wouldn't be for me. I like my compounds separate so I can test what is doing what. If this is your first cycle and using these drugs than you have no idea your reaction to them. Say you have a adverse reaction during pct you won't know which compound is doing what. Also you won't be able to individually adjust your dosage. I would save that perfect pct until you perfectly know how you will react to each compound separately brother.