posted Thu, 09/25/2014 - 04:56
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-1 2nd cycle..test E Dbol.....Mast kick???
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Here to get input from all of you...Thinking of a mast kick...Would that be silly? if so....how would ya recommend it? Other than that any and all input is greatly appreciated ...Thank you everyone!!! looking to lean bulk
6-1
207lbs
aprox %12 bodyfat
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Dbol | Nolvadex/Clomid | Aromasin |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 750mg/week | 50mg/Day | ||
| 2 | 750mg | 50mg/Day | 12.5eod | |
| 3 | 750mg | 50mg/Day | 12.5eod | |
| 4 | 750mg | 50mg/Day | 12.5eod | |
| 5 | 750mg | 12.5eod | ||
| 6 | 750mg | 12.5eod | ||
| 7 | 750mg | 12.5eod | ||
| 8 | 750mg | 12.5eod | ||
| 9 | 750mg | 12.5eod | ||
| 10 | 750mg | 12.5eod | ||
| 11 | 750mg | 12.5eod | ||
| 12 | 750mg | 12.5eod | ||
| 13 | 12.5eod | |||
| 14 | 20mg/100mg | 12.5ed | ||
| 15 | 20mg/100mg | 12.5ed | ||
| 16 | 10mg/50mg | 6.25ed | ||
| 17 | 10mg/50mg | 6.25ed |
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Pretty good layout. I would recommend a couple of things. First,drop test dose to 500mgs a week. That's plenty. Second,drop the dbol completely. I would go w tbol n stead. And finally start the aromasin n week 3.
I'd say you're probably 17-18% bf. Gear is a factor, but diet, supps, proper lifting routine/cardio and rest are most important. When it comes to gear the goal should be to utilize as little as possible for max results. Test at 500-600 is plenty for second cycle w the stack of var. I'd look up a lean mass building program on body building.com or look up proper macros for your body type and goal. Dont focus on more compounds. Work on building blocks of body building and let the gear help w progress. Don't look at it as a way to cut corners. I saw your pics. You're making good progress!!
iron nationHello,
A good layout but for a second cycle i would not recommend such doses. Aparently 500 mg of test is all what a normal person needs to grow if his diet is spot on. Anavar would be more suitable as fellow members suggested but if you have decided to go with dbol, i would recommend to keep the dosages between 15-25 mg or maximum 30 mg. Addition of a Proviron will be a very wise decision. I think you don't need Masteron at the moment. Test, Proviron, Dbol/anavar, a solid PCT, AI and most important of all a perfect diet and you will grow before your eyes
BlutoLow dose test and good diet.
if i added the var and took out the dbol and dropped the test to 600mg....it would be almost the same as my first cycle....i wanted to put a lil more on than last time....is there such a thing as a moderate bulking cycle ?
Your BF is higher than 12%.
BlutoYou forgot the word much.
If you're looking into a lean, bulk then I would drop the Test to 600, and drop the Dbol. Dbol will have you holding water, and puffy. I don't see the point in a Mast kick either. Look into Proviron. I ran it last cycle and was very pleased. Lean gains, vascular and dry. It's not liver toxic, but can be harsh on the hairline if you have MPB. You'll need to take some saw palmetto for your prostate if you choose to use it. One other thing you're PCT is a little light, on the nolva side. Typically it's 40/40/20/20 if that's what you did last time and you felt it was fine then leave it.
I would consider
Test E @ 600mg 1-12
Provi @ 50mg ED for lenght of cycle
Var @ 50mg 6-12
Proper diet and you should be lean and mean.
RustyhookerAgree with exceptions. The aro pct like hes posted is on point. And the var 8-14 right up to pct. Test still there booming and the provi/var combo will dry/harden him nicely.
Blood test will dial him in hardcore week 5 for estradiol check.
Beautifully spoken Rusty, getting me pumped up for my next cycle in Dec.
AH... completely missed the Aro through PCT.
What was your first cycle?
Test E 600mg/
Var/50mg/a day weeks 4 threw 10