posted Fri, 11/28/2014 - 00:48
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2nd cycle critique
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Hi. Only my second cycle, would like any input as to any changes or improvements. Age 39, Height 5ft 7, weight 177lbs, 15% bodyfat. Hoping to add mass but without too much bloat. Any comments greatly appreciated.
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Dianabol | Arimidex | Pregnyl hcg | Clomid | Nolvadex |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 350mg E5D | 25mg ED | 0.5EOD | |||
| 2 | 350mg E5D | 25mg ED | 0.5EOD | |||
| 3 | 350mg E5D | 25mg ED | 0.5EOD | |||
| 4 | 350mg E5D | 25mg ED | 0.5EOD | 500IU | ||
| 5 | 350mg E5D | 0.5EOD | 500IU | |||
| 6 | 350mg E5D | 0.5EOD | 500IU | |||
| 7 | 350mg E5D | 0.5EOD | 500IU | |||
| 8 | 350mg E5D | 0.5EOD | ||||
| 9 | 350mg E5D | 0.5EOD | ||||
| 10 | 350mg E5D | 0.5EOD | ||||
| 11 | 350mg E5D | 0.5EOD | ||||
| 12 | 350mg E5D | 0.5EOD | ||||
| 13 | ||||||
| 14 | 100 | 40 | ||||
| 15 | 100 | 40 | ||||
| 16 | 50 | 20 | ||||
| 17 | 50 | 20 |
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You need more time between the test and pct. Should be about 21 days between last shot and starting pct
Thanks, l will go with 21 as you advised, also how long do you think I should wait before starting the third cycle?
AnonTime on cycle + pct = minimum time off before next cycle.
Aside from the HCG (irongame touched on that), I think it looks pretty solid man. After the first week to 10 days, see how the results are on the dbols, and if you think you can handle it, I would suggest one 25mg tab every 12 hours. 25mg is a low dose even for a beginner, but I do applaud you for starting low, and then raising as needed. Best wishes on the cycle man
Will do bro! Thanks
Going low on the dbol as its only first time im using and want to get a feel of its effects, also the tablets are 25mg each from AP. The test will be AP and im hoping that pinning 5 days apart would mean that im gettin closer to the 500mgs per week you advised. Or I could pin 500 once per week perhaps as this will half pinning frequency. Will def look into Tbol in future if bloat becomes an issue. Thanks for the input bro.
Not sure what you're trying to do with
The hcg. Probably should go back and reasesrch the proper way to use hcg.
Thanks irongame, Ill take your advice and look into it further. I just wanted to add it mid cycle to prevent me shutting down too hard after using 2 steroids. Worried about running it high and for too long incase there is any desensitisation to leydig cells?. Also it stings alot (used sterile water, then froze it in slin pins). Its difficult to source bac water in the uk. I warmed it up before subq injection but still I felt burning whilst pinning it. Your input is appreciated greatly.
Guys on trt use it indefinitely at 250-500ius twice a week with no problems. I spend alot of time looking into this and according to most trt docs it would take alot of hcg for a long period of time to cause desensitization to occur.
As for the stinging ive had some hcg that did the same damn thing. It was extremely painful to inject. That was the first time i used it and it only happened with that brand. This was a long time ago and i remember reading about it online and some people said yes there hcg is super painful nd others said no, not at all. Every brand ive used since then has not cause even the slightest bit of pain. So i dont really have much info to offer other then use a different brand/source.
I will definitely run hcg for longer and try another brand as you recommended. Thank you.
I ran hcg for the last 6 wks up till pct I'm actually starting pct on Monday hcg was great addition my nuts feel back 2 normal 250iu tue-Friday it's was slightly painful but I would pin before bed and it wasn't too bad after ah few pins just make sure u don't pin same spot over and over
That sounds like good advice. Do you think if I pinned intramuscularly the pain would be less? If so what gauge would be recommended?
Nah bro do sub-q it's not that bad and the body absorbs it faster too I use a 30g 5/8 th slin pin
Or u can use 29g 1/2 inch u can do intra but I recommend sub-q ..... As far as pain it's not that bad bro on a scale of 1-10 pain is like 2 maybe 3 at the most
350mg E5D is 490mg a week. That's close enough to 500 to get great results IMO.
Am I better off pinning 500mg once a week in your opinion? I know that 250mgs twice is the better protocol, but would it make much difference? Thanks for your input.
AnonPin twice a week, less fluctuation in hormone levels.