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5'11/210/bf is about 13%-,looking to drop body fat and gain some lean muscle....Prior to my first cycle I had done a half dozen pro-hormone cycle.My first cycle was test cypionate 600mg 13 weeks .I was honestly pretty disappointed.The prohormones I had used were much stronger .Quicker results and better strength gains.This time I am increasing it to 750mg and I am adding anavar.My biggest problem with my body is stomach fat.Its very difficult to rid.I am going to eat a clean high protein diet of arounf 2500- 3000 calories.This should put me in a light deficit.. My questions are in 2 areas.I dont seem prpne to gyno.My first cycle I had anastozole and didnt use it till week 6 .I then took 1 mg every 3d day and was fine.Will the anavar help prevent gyno?My studies indicate yes So I plan on having anastrozole on hand if needed.I will have bloods done half way through.My second question is in regards to the anavar.Seen people go 3 months and see most people say 6-8.I will just go the 6 since its my first go.I am open to any suggestions and changes.As far as the test goes the range I looked at suggested 600mg a good level.I took 3 things into acount.My first cycle I managed 600 very well,2nd my test levels were under 300 last I checked,3d I am using a UGL ,a good UGL but still 750 will probably equal mid 600.I will start PCT 2 weeks after last pin.Then get bloods 8 weeks later to check test levels and estro.........Oh,I am willing to go up on anavar if suggested.

WeekTest CypionateanavarNolva/clomid
11500mg
2750mg
3750mg
4750mg
5750mg
6750mg
7750mg
8750mg50mg Daily
9750mg50mg Daily
10750mg50mg Daily
11750mg75mg Daily
12750mg75mg Daily
13750mg75mg Daily
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15100/40
1650/20
1750/20
50/20
TED's picture

I'm with makwa on this one. Hold the var for a bit. Let the diet dictate your gains and save the var til you're around 10% and you'll see some amazing changes

Makwa's picture

600mg is more than enough test, especially for your second cycle. If you can't make gains off of 600mg upping the dose isn't going to change much except increase the chances for unwanted side effects. I would assess whether or not you want to use the var based upon where your bodyfat is at midcycle. If you are in the single digits i would say incorporate it into your cycle. If you are not in the single digit BF I would skip it. It is not a magical fat burner but more of a "polishing" drug to enhance an already lean physique.

GRIMEY's picture

I agree with chunky. No need to up your dose AND add a 2nd compound. If you did well on 600mg last time, Im sure you'll do well on 600mg with the addition of anavar. You dont want to get into the habit of upping your dose every cycle because by the time you get to your 5th or 6th cycle you'll be running a butt load of gear.

Also, not sure where you read that anavar helps with gyno but that is completely false.

I'd also reccomend running the first two weeks of your pct at 100/40 instead of just the first week as you have it laid out.

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irongame427's picture

He didn't do well in 600 last time he was disappointed. I get that a lot of these prohormones are incredibly strong. But also very toxic. But test isn't gonna put 30lbs on you in a month like some of the stronger prohormones will. It's gonna give you nice slow steady gains over a longer period of time which will be much easier to keep then those made on the designer steroids or prohormones. Run the anavar right up until pct so start it a week later then you had planned to bridge the two week gap before pct.

chunkypbnj's picture

Too much test for a 2nd cycle. Anavar I would go up to 100mg. You second week of PCT should be 100/40. Anavar does not prevent gyno. Instead of front loading the cyp why not use a test prop kicker?

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