posted Thu, 07/17/2014 - 21:49
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10 Week Testosterone Propionate, Anavar, Proviron, HGH Blitz
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Statistics: 6'3" 250ish, 15-18% bf
Expectations: Cut from 250 to 225, while keeping strength gains and keeping sides to a minimum.
Concerns: Sides such as libido, hair loss, back/calf pumps...
Questions: Will HGH counteract sides, how will HGH affect cycle, etc.
Update: I may use the test prop initially while loading with test enan...haven't decided yet...
| WEEK | Testosterone Propionate | Anavar | Proviron | HGH | HCG |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 70 mg ed | 40 mg ed | 25 mg ed | 3IU ed | |
| 2 | * | 60 mg ed | 50 mg ed | * | |
| 3 | * | 80 mg ed | * | * | |
| 4 | * | * | * | 3 IU 2x Daily | 500 IU 2x Week |
| 5 | * | * | * | 3 IU 2x Daily | 500 IU 2x Week |
| 6 | * | * | * | 3 IU 2x Daily | 500 IU 2x Week |
| 7 | * | * | * | 3 IU 2x Daily | 500 IU 2x Week |
| 8 | * | 60 mg ed | * | 3 IU 2x Daily | 500 IU 2x Week |
| 9 | * | 40 mg ed | * | 3 IU 2x Daily | 500 IU 2x Week |
| 10 | * | 40 mg ed | * | 3 IU 2x Daily | 500 IU 2x Week |
| 11 | Ongoing (6 months) | ||||
| 12 | Clomid | Nolvadex | |||
| 13 | 100 mg | 40mg | |||
| 14 | 100 mg | 40mg | |||
| 15 | 50 mg | 40mg | |||
| 16 | 50 mg | 20mg | |||
| 17 | 20mg |
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Accept my fr bro got a few questions for you.
AnonSee what you need is more orals. Lots and lots of orals. Needles? Fuck needles. With that I'm better than you attitude I already know you're a cop and good news! We've already got the perfect cycle written up for you from one of our long time vets. God bless the men in blue.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/off-topic/steroid-cycle-for-police-o...
Don't worry he's a doc that's why he bought cheap generic gh because he has a huge pay check amd could afford pharma and could have it written by other doc friends but chose generics bc he's a fiscally responsible doctor
Yeah that's right, having colleagues write prescriptions for me is a practice that is wise to follow especially when it deals with anabolics and peptides, heck, why not just have them write me an rx for medical marijuana, some benzos, opiates, and heck, why not throw some Ketamine in there...
A cop couldn't carry my lab coat, I'm a trauma doc..;) ha
Trauma doc with his face posted in a pic on a steroid review site...... In the uk your career would be over and steroids aren't even illegal here.
Re read what you wrote here:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/hgh-peptides/rhgh/hgh-questions-among-others...
I have no idea why a medic would ask the questions you have in that post. Pay particular attention to the "Anyone know how I can go about that" section.
Thanks God, this isn't the UK...inquiring about things/the pursuit of knowledge, isn't any type of offense, then again, if something was to be done about it, that's what we have good lawyers for, well people that can afford good lawyers, the rest are kind of out of luck...;)
Oh, this also isn't only my second cycle....far from it, in fact....
You're planning on running Var for ten weeks!?! I don't care what you take as a liver supplement, but it won't help. Var won't help you cut fat either, so you need to get that out of your head. Diet is your only key here.
I saw your last cycle, which included tren. You need to simplify things. Going with ED shots for ten weeks will be hell and will only build tons of scar tissue. I would go with a longer ester test, provi, and hgh. You're BF is really too high to see any benifit with the var. If you concentrate on your diet and bring it down, maybe you could include it the last 4 weeks, but I don't recommend it for you.
The purpose of steroids in my book has never been to act as "fat burners" but muscle "preservers" even "gainers" when dieting/cutting. And no, especially using the right equipment, rotation of sites, etc,which i know I have more access to than the overwhelming majority on here, wont' build up scar tissue from a simple 10 weeks, besides, I actually like shooting up often, I kinda dig PIP but then again, my techniques, gear, etc, maintain a very small amount of sides regarding administration of the gear...and yes, Anavar will work as an anabolic no matter what your body-fat is which, in all honesty, mine is fairly accurate, and I said fairly, b/c I'm probably cutting myself short, and I'm not always so sure of everyone else's....Regardless, the cycle I wrote up consists of drugs that work well together, one, "supposed," harsh liver cycle won't damage your liver either, that's urban legend. I think the main thing to try to remember is that steroids can't simply be grouped into categories that MUST stay in those categories. They can be used in many different cycles and just because Test and Deca are supposed buiking cycle anabolics doesn't mean they can't be used to cut (which I've also done successfully). My diet is always ok, I can tune it up or tune it down, I have the luxury of doing that b/c I work in medicine and not bodybuilding. Maybe, I can also freak a few out here and talk about how I'll throw some clen and T4/T3 in here to really cut...;)
Actually ya, these orals do damage the liver. Do you know what alt and ast is? It's chemicals in the liver and they raise when the livers stressed, and they typically go back to normal after a while when you come off the orals. But the damage has been done and the inside of the liver scars over. Nobody really knows if it actually still works as well as it did befoe.
I'm not asking questions generally, I'm asking them in reference to personal experience, but that doesn't mean your experience applies to ALL experiences like most feel on here because they can't think outside their little bubble...and I think it's kinda cute you askin' me if I know of ALT's and AST's...and with regards to liver damage and "scarring," that's a very generic/laymen term that shouldn't be applied in this case, then again, I'm sure somehow someone will start equating Hepatitis to anavar and proviron as well...ya know what, I think I may just have my liver removed for the cycle, you guys are really stirring the pot nicely...
You can think of it as "personal experience" but if you fully understand and have used the compounds it would make sense. How are you gonna see the hardening and increased vascualrity with a drug like anavar if your bf is high? I've done it , sure under the fat you feel it, bjt it's pretty wothless. Same with mast. I mean sure all these drugs can be used for any purpose but some are suited better for certain goals. If I'm gonna bulk and I gonna use winny or dBol? If I'm a power lifter am I gonna use tbol or halo? If I'm cutting, and it's basicaya fact that mast is worthless unless your really lean becauS it's main benifit is conditioning, meaning hardening vascualrity density there's not point if bodyfat is high. It's a waste of money. Bro I started my cut at the same bodyfat as you and used var and it's finally starting to be worth the money I paid for it . But if I would have knkw this I would tn habe wasted my time just to feel a little harder under a layer of fat and a few extra veins on my forearms. I'm like 12-13% now. I would have loved to wait until now to start it but I have to come off soon.
Your right some people respond differently, bjt not in ways like for one person deca is awesome for cutting and better then say primo or tren. It's small differences like eq doensnt make them hungry, or they don't bloat much on test shit like the. But for the majority of people the big picture is the same. So that's all were trying to help.
Ok so after your response, I definitely agree and if you really think it'd be best to add in the var later then I'll give it a go...how about the proviron though, I wanted to run it with the test to free up as much test as possible due it's effect on shbg and the two working synergistically in a sense....regardless, I don't think there will be anything but positive results...
Definitely run the proviron, like you said it will help free you bound test, keep estrogen down so less water retention, and it will make you somewhat harder and denser. Personally I would extend the cycle to 12 weeks and run the var for the last 6. That first 6 weeks should give you a decent amount of time to get you bf down so when you start the var you really get the full effects. Under 13-14% would be best, 12 even better. I started mine at probably 16% bf maybe a little higher and it really did much until i got significantly leaner. Now that I'm like 12% its really starting to shine. Im denser, look harder and extremely vascular. I would have loved to wait until i was like 13% to start it use it for 6-8 weeks at that point but instead i only have about 2 weeks left on it. But its all about experience and ill know for next time. Are you planning on starting the Gh the same day your start your cycle? If possible i would definitely try to start the gh like 1-2 months before you start the aas. I sent you a fr btw wanna ask you some questions about your job.
What in the hell does working in medicine have anything to do with diet? Second u will not see the results of var like u will if u take some more time and cut your fat down to 10 ta 12 percent. Next don't run any oral for ten weeks. Use var as a finisher like the last four ta six weeks.
Maybe u should post a link to your steriod book cause this comment makes no sense at all. Maybe u should Google some things that happen with orals are taken for to long that's not an urban legend but your experience in medicine u should know this.your logic here is like well I'm goin to have unprotected sex one time there's nothing bad that can happen right. don't think I'll be buying your book anytime soon btw it's perfect u would put clen in here your heart thanks u but again u work in medicine what do I know
Your 100% right about the results with var not being as good at high bf. I started mine when it was high and it really didn't make much dkffemece until I got a lot leaner. Best to hold off until your atleast under 14%, leaner would be better.
Good to see another voice of reason on this thread. Not sure it will help the OP, but will help to dispel the nonsense for others. :-)
When I said, I can tune it up or tune it down b/c I work in medicine and not bodybuilding, I meant it as, I don't need to be on point 24/7 like a bodybuilder when it comes to eating...I can cheat when it comes to dieting much more or just simply not diet at all, that was the point, not saying I'm going to, I'm just saying I have that luxury.
I'm always blown away how people go on and on about the "full effects/results" of a drug, and they are only seen at certain times. Where does this mindset come from? Anavar, Testosterone, etc, will work regardless; there isn't a magic number of weight or body fat or anything for that matter, that causes the drug to be inactive or less useful. Also, orals being so incredibly hepatotoxic; maybe we should take a look at what a person consumes that affects the liver for 80 years of their life and not 10 friggin' weeks....I know liver toxic drugs, and anavar, yes, affects the liver, among so many other things, but 10 weeks on it, I'm pretty sure you'll make it...
mustafa5903bro just take the advice I wrote below on the test prop and anavar cycle..
It still will probably do you no good because your bf is too damn high to even consider running var.
But it's still better than the shit you laid out
Please, stop acting like you know amyrhinf about this shit, one of your questions was if gh would counteract the side effects from steroids. That right there tells me all I need to know about your knowledge of this stuff. Just take the constructive critism. Were here to help you.
Lol not even arguing with u. This comment is funny. U have no understanding of how aas works do u. Fact u will not see the same results with anavar at 18 percent body fat as u will at say 10 percent fact. Now u want to throw in test okay once again u will not see the same results at a lower body fat true. Plus u will be at a higher risk of more side effects been at a higher body fat true. This shit your saying it works no matter what is kinda true yes u will see some results but nothing of what u will see at a lower bodyfat. Not counting having a higher risk of side effects
Wow..... Don't know where to start with your response, so I think I'll pass. Just simply say that you are way off on just about everything and your bordering on idiocy.
You posted this up to get responses, but your intent rebuffing any intelligent responses, so best of luck to you.
I posted for responses but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to respond and/or have my own opinion to that response, especially when words like idiot start getting thrown around, geeze...I've seen this sorta trend all over eroids when guys write up cycles, you get 10 different responses of everything they feel you're doing wrong, instead of taking a step back, and looking for a compromise or a, ya know, that may just work, or give it a shot, or tweak this or that just a bit. Everyone goes for the entire tamale and wants to not only rip the OP but then rip what they planned on doing as well...Then again, this doesn't exist only on here...;)
mustafa5903How does your diet look? Dude you can totally drop more body fat and weight alone with just dieting. I think 250 15-18% is too high. You will not see the results you seek if you're diet aint planned out
I believe this is your second cycle. You should check yourself at the doc before you cycle again. Just to be safe.
I don't think it's wise to take the 2 different orals in this cycle while running everything else. I would suggest to drop the proviron.
The var would be great running for 6-8 weeks. Starting in the middle of the cycle
Test prop week 1-10 100mg EOD Would be great for a cycle alone. But if you had to add the var:
Var week 4-11 or 4-12 40/40/60/60/60/80/80.
HCG should be stopped a few days before pct starts
pct starts two weeks your last test injection
Just my opinion and from reading lots of things here.
Jbrit1212Where did u get the gh from? Looking for a good source
Will hgh counteract sides? I wish lol. How will it effect the cycle? Assuming you started the gh a month or so before the cycle you can expect even more fat loss, faster muscle growth, better sleep better looking skin faster growing hair and nails. Adding gh just gives a different look in my opinion. Like a 3d look. I'm in var right now and I haven't had any calf or back pumps even waking on an incline every morning for a half hour. But I think I'm a special case cause I never got back and calf pumps on any of the compounds that are notorious for it.
I'm on my phone right now which makes it hard to understand the layout of the cycle. Idk why but it just doesn't show up right on my phone. I'll check it out when I get on my labtop