+ 18 These are not my BLOODS: MetaPharma Test E&C
*These are not my bloods. They belong to one of my brothers. I am posting them, with his permission, for the purpose of contributing to our cause.
*Why does he not make his own Eroids account? It would not be wise for him to do so at this point of his career. When that time comes, he will, and he’ll post his own shit.
He is 37 years old and this is his inaugural test only blast. His natty testosterone levels were 972 total and 14 free. That 972 total scored outside the reference and his PCP actually asked him if he was on TRT. We did consider him running HCG first, but opted to go straight for test. That decision was based upon his ultimate goals.
The IGF-1 score was a baseline for him to have before he started using growth.
These bloods were taken after five weeks of using MetaPharma Test Cyp 200mg and MetaPharma Test E 300mg. His dosage is .5 ml Cyp (100mg) and .5ml E (150mg) 250mg, twice per week. 500mg total per week. The blood was drawn one day post injection.
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This looks great, although you you give him some Arimadex to bring down the Estro before it turns into gyno. That’s pretty high.
Yeah, definitely, no gyno. We knocked his E2 down after these bloods came back
Jesus fuck. This shits not even fair lol. Y’all are a bunch of genetic freaks. we think your out here suffering eating your oats and chicken but really your eating cake and fucking Krispy Kreme’s aren’t you, you fucking mutant?? Lmao
Lmfao, bro, if I started eating pastries, I’d have tits in two weeks. Chicken and oat flour is the foundation! I got my bro on the oat flour as well so we can see how he does with it. Eventually he’ll join us on here, as soon as he gets the goddamn state off his back
Ya I get it. How old is he?
37
Crazy stats for 500mg of test.
Yeah, obviously it’s good and he responded beautifully
I put a big order in last night based on this. Trying his NPP too. Hopefully their customer service is top notch cause I screwed up my payment lol…
Customer service has always been good for me. Anytime I’ve messaged him through the site, I’d have a response within 24 hours. If there was ever a mistake, they made sure it was taken care of + some. I’ve spent a good amount of money with them, between $1500-$2000 through out all their sales.
lol, I was looking around on his website last night too. Almost all of the gear that I’ve gotten from Meta has been dished out to my boys. Now, I’m like fuck, I wanna try some of that test myself
It has a long shelf life!
Yeah, if it stays on your shelf lol
He’s probably jacked already isn’t he? Do Your numbers look like this too? And why two different eaters like that?
Yeah, I mean, he didn’t leave anything on the table in there, that’s for sure. Came home end of November, prison jacked and natty. Ummm idk what numbers you are referring to, but I never pulled bloods before I hopped on gear so I’ll never know my natty t score. That was one mistake that my bro here doesn’t have to sweat. As far my test response numbers, I’ve posted them, nowhere near as good as his. The two different esters were just because I didn’t have any 250mg at the time. It’s just easier for him to measure .5ml of each and do that twice a week. I wanted to keep injection frequency down to the minimum too, so he could get the hang of it without being overwhelmed
At the end of the day he's probably what I always speak about on some guys...a guy who doesn't need to use as much gear as alot of other guys. I'm sure u can understand sparta. If someone can grow from smaller dosages why not? But ok bigger doses more gains but also more sides. Some folks have to learn the their own body and listen to it. It takes time but eventually it can be mastered and smooth sailing from there. Some may say genetics but to me it's more of being a lucky hyper responder and just knowing your body that's all. It happens. I'd much rather make gains on smaller doses with less sides for sure. But everyone is different
Yup, hyper responder is a good one to have for sure. I agree with you, that may be even more of a blessing than genetics. It’s easy for people to see the finished product and say you have good genetics, but like look at Nick walkers first body building comp, would you say then that he had good genetics? I think the dude is a hyper responder and did everything else right. In the end, those things we can’t control. So it’s pointless to consider them, I rather focus on the things I can, like you said, unlocking your own blueprint for this shit and finding out what works best for you, training, gear, diet, and getting the most you can out of that
Good point. What folks fail to understand is he may be a hyper responder but what happens when a hyper responder decides to go higher on their doses? Easy to figure that one out lol. Like I said I can't say what it is with Nick. It's not aesthetic genetics that's for sure but there is something to him for sure as far as his ability for pure mass.
Yeah, being a hyper responder doesn’t mean you have to stick with low doses lol. Its nice for your health if you do, but its also nice if you want to push the limits and mutate
That's exactly what a hyper responder is. There are options no doubt. Some don't like taking a chance with their health and others do.
Yeah, of you want to be at the top level, get that exposure and money, you gotta roll the dice with you’re health. Not worth imo, if you ain’t getting paid
Yeah call me scary or whatever but man first off my body wouldn't be able to tolerate those dosages for damn sure I promise u that. Also man look I understand it's about feeding the fam but you gotta be around to enjoy the fam also. But hey that's my thinking. I'm not in that situation, I get it
Yeah, that’s a good point and Derick just had a baby. Maybe they think they can get in and get out.
I don't know seriously. Not in that situation but probably would hate to be in that situation especially with a family that depends on you and your health too.
But best case scenario in and out with money and with good health.
Yeah these dudes should be able to stack enough bread for life with YouTube and sponsors. As long as they’re smart with it
I agree. Take some of that money and invest it in real estate or in stocks
Yeah, don’t blow it like one of those drill rappers from Chicago
Chi-Raq....
Buddy Nick Walker runs an absolute FUCK LOAD of Gear bro, that ain't just good genetics. I have a good pal on here that knows him well and has trained with him various times and I have seen a layout of what he runs. Most men would not be able to manage a day on it all, thats why I am surprised the guy is still here in all honesty. He does seem to take his health and supplements seriously though if you watch the amount of capsules he swallows each morning for his organs BEFORE he even eats. Where did you get the idea he runs low gear mate?
EDIT: Just found it all - I won't list it all for obvious reasons but lets just say Test was 7.5g/wk
No fucking way!!!!! And here I am thinking I’m pushing the envelope when I go up to 650-700 wk lol. The only reason I don’t think that’s absolute bullshit is Dallas macarvers test levels when he died were like 50,000 so he was using something like that amount.
Yeah it equalled out he was using about 10g per week, they are willing to do what it takes though mate. You gotta imagine all to all those guys in the private circles huge massive cycles are normal, they also know a lot of the tricks to being able to run and tolerate those amounts. Problem is though is that you simply cannot protect your heart at those kinds of levels in terms of it acting like every other muscle in the body and growing way too big - the heart isn't supposed to grow bigger.
Holy wtf!? 50k, that’s insane! Must have felt like God himself
Well there’s also a theory that I don’t remember exactly but something about a certain organ like the kidney or liver can release what’s in inside it when you die and it flows into your blood stream so since the blood is drawn from his dead body it had like this pure load of kidney or liver filtered toxic stuff that just got dumped and had a fuck ton of steriods in it and it caused his numbers to look like that or something. I know I did a horrible job explaining that shit. But it made sense when I first heard it lol
Naw, lol, I understood. His body just let it all go. It was probably tired and glad he died
Ya so it might not have been what is actual levels were , they still would’ve been ridiculously high cus that means that there was still that amount floating in his body at one time but he might not have been doing 10+ grams a week and maybe more like 5-7 grams. Really we’ll never truly know I guess
Either way, that’s just insane to even think about. I know this kid who ran his first cycle, it was supposed to be just test. He figured out how to order gear and just went apeshit on me behind my back. Once I found out, I made him stop and go see the doctor. He was on test, ment, npp, T3, and anavar. His bloods came back t levels >7500. The doctor freaked out on him. He’s a good kid though, learned his lesson, chilled out for a long time, still beasted workouts, and then tried it again with just test
You gotta be kidding me man. I've been in the game longer than he has and he's ahead of me...damn!..damn!
But I've seen this type of thing at times unfortunately.
Lmao, what? You don’t have a shit show cycle under your belt yet? I did reel that kids ass in though, ain’t gonna lie, that felt good. He’s locked in now
Honestly no and I'd admit if I did. Lol I'm a boring guy when it comes to cycles. Always have been. If your use to something kinda hard changing it up. Last year just started looking into your favorite inject GH.
All those sides like increased blood pressure, bloody nose, acne etc I never liked or wanted. Especially blood pressure. I just rather not deal with it and rather not take meds for it either. Not trying to be Mr. Olympia
Yeah, if you’re not completing why subject yourself to the ugly part of cycles? When done reasonably, it’s thoroughly enjoyable and you still can make plenty of progress
Hey I don't recommend high dosing but that's what some do and that's their decision, I don't judge but if it's reckless it's reckless lol. At the end of the day folks will do what they want to do. Ya know a 5-7 pound gain can look like 15-20 pound gain depending on your body type.
Yeah, I don’t judge either, I can’t man, lol. Yeah, 5-7 pound gain is nothing to sneeze at. Especially if you’re lean. Picture sticking 7 12oz steaks in all the right places on your body
Now I'm hungry
Lmao me too
Oh I def got some of those. Or the “kitchen sink” cycle. Where you do a little of everything until one day you wake up and you realize your covered in acne your face looks like a fucking puffer fish and you got gyno, and if you really fucked up, you’d be getting nose bleeds too lol. And then you realize “woh I gotta chill the fuck out”. You kinda start going crazy when you first find you can order all the gear you could ever want
Lmao, respect bro, gotta learn somehow, right? Mine wasn’t that bad, just some crashed E2 and piss poor gains. That’s true though, you get mesmerized by these compounds that are available to you. Kid in a candy store type shit.
I still find myself drooling when I see some new shit or crazy cheap prizes and shit lol
Haha yeah, me too, but it is starting to wear off
Damn that's horrible. Let me just say this too, no disrespect to Dallas but he looked way older than he was. I mean the guy was young but he looked like he was damn near 40. Maybe all the drugs which was brought up or just genetics that aged him.
@23Sparta did Dallas look older to you. He was early 20s I think