Ano ya don’t man but you got yourself that pumped up and chunky you like you have one them muscle suits on solid work and eating your a big dude keep up good work
That’s a big unit …. How many calories that fucker take to fuel ? Just looked at your profile 222lbs !!!! You look a lot of mass for that weight or the old stats On your profile? Either way hats of to you bro looking hench
Haha, no counting, I just eat chicken and oatmeal until I can’t every day. I am a little bit heavier, 230. Hats off right back at you Stokes, and I’m commandeering that word “hench”. Respect.
lol, it’s not as bad as you think. I feel more comfortable at my age using oats for carbs when bulking. They are not as highly glycemic, in my body, as white rice. They may not be quite as effective for gains, but offer other health benefits that imo make them a better choice.
Ya whenever I do low glycemic carbs I can hardly gain, I kinda need the high glycemic, my metabolism is either too fast or my appetite isn’t enough for me to eat enough of the low. I’ve been just eating cereal for almost all my carbs and it’s working pretty good for me,
I'm exactly the same mate - need Heavy carbs and lots of em to gain. Trust me on this, stick a White jacket potato with everything you eat and it works a treat!!! Even half a Jacket.
Lol, my metabolism definitely isn’t all too speedy. Also, agreed, it is hard to smash a shit ton of whole grains. That’s why I use the oat flour and just drink it. Surrounding my workouts, I use maltodextrin, because the oats would never get there in time. Using cereal for fuel makes sense to me. You’re probably getting a nice blend of carbs with different release times. The best diet is the one that you can stick to
@23Sparta@Rosschestzip my metabolism is fast. Some folks say a fast metabolism is a good thing but I agree partially. It makes it kinda harder to put on bulk in my opinion. I do exactly what you mentioned 23sparta. I'm not a big eater but I just do what works for me. Some guys can eat like no one's business. Wish I had their appetite.
I would’ve killed for my metabolism now back when I was younger, like my teens and early 20s. I used to be heavy and not in a good way and then one day it just started melting off. Especially now on hgh, it really does make gaining bulk hard. It also kills my wallet on food lmao. It definitely has its pros and cons.
Definitely bro, it’s there for everyone, you just have to crack your own code. A lot of trial and error it took to know what I know about myself, and there’s never an end in sight
My appetite is ok, many for me, it’s lots of small meals, and drinking the oat four for carbs has made a difference
Cracking your own code...never heard that but I love that saying....sooo true. I drink some meals and at times I relied too much on drinks. Nothing beats food when you have an appetite my man..nothing. Especially during breakfast
Definitely a balance and yeah…. nothing beats real food. lol, my second cycle I pretty much drank ALL my food and didn’t use an AI. When I did bloods I had the E2 of an ovulating woman mid-cycle. Estrogen balloon is an understatement. I couldn’t even make a fist, but damn I was strong.
Damn all that e2 huh? I've never used an ai man. Felt it wasn't needed. But now as we get older it's probably easier to convert so I keep primo around.
Absolutely. They didn’t even have AI’s back in the golden era. You can definitely design a great cycle that doesn’t need one and those dudes did have primo. I like lots of test, and I do use an AI to keep myself in my sweet spot. Have not been able to completely dial in primo as an AI yet. I plan to in the future
I love masteron but it doesn’t have an effect on my E2. It reduces the sides but doesn’t lower the number. I was at 600mg test, 600mg mast, 37.5mg asin per week and my E2 was 58. Which is cool for me, but without the Asin, would have been much too high. Primo so far has been shown to tank my E2. I’ve used it 1:1 ratio with test and my shit came back <4 lol. I wish mast did it for me like you, cause I love the compound
Yeah, it definitely did on one E2 test. Not giving up on Primo though, I just need more experience and data to be able to use it effectively in my stack
700mg primo, I can’t figure out the dosages of the aromatizing compounds that I ran with it. I have the bloods but lost notes when I changed phones. That was in June of last year, before I reeled myself in and made a commitment to live this life responsibly
If it lowered all the sides does the number really matter? And isn’t higher estron good for the heart and brain, so ,couldn’t that actually be good to have a little higher number but no sides right or no?
Oh 100 percent estrogen is anabolic, cardio/neuro protective. I’ve always prescribed to the school of thought that says to treat the symptoms and not the number, when it comes to E2. With that said though, I don’t want my E2 to be at 200, even if I didn’t have sides. I believe upper end of the reference range or even 10, 20, 30 pg/ml supraphysiological is plenty of E2 to reap all the benefits. As far as if there are any health risks associated having E2 higher than that despite side effects being under control using a compound like masteron, idk. I know too much estrogen in itself, definitely has a negative impact on health. lol, vigorous Steve just dropped a masteron deep dive video today (speak of the devil) and I just turned it on. He dug through all the available research for us. Interested to see what he has to say
As with everything...including shbg or IGF carrier protein....there needs to be balance. Too many times guys want to lower their sbhg way too much and that's not good. Those carrier proteins aren't there just to be there. They have duties.
He’s great! Really ahead of the times on this shit. Him and Derek I’d considered some of the top experts in the world on steriods and ancillaries and all that, at least in a bodybuilding application
100 Steve is the most knowledgeable PED guru in the public eye. I ran the same supplement stack he did on his high test only cycle and have never felt better on gear
That's true, they didn't have Ais.
But they were using a weaker ai the whole time and didn't even know it. I'm still trying to dial it in myself. I refuse to use an ai.
Right! I can't get off into this era but that era....yessir! Times were simple as were people. None of that complexity we deal with today. I mean yes I appreciate the technology and advancements no doubt but there's something to be said about that era.
That is awesome bud thick look and also looks tight damn great job mass monster
Respect brother, I see you too. Sick avatar btw
Hyooooge
lol, just trying to catch up to you bro
amazing work! huge back
Appreciate that, respect
Ano ya don’t man but you got yourself that pumped up and chunky you like you have one them muscle suits on solid work and eating your a big dude keep up good work
Hell yeah, pumped up and chunky! Appreciate that bro, respect
Gaddamn! Now this man oatmeals! Huge bro, huge. Nice job
Lil debbie oatmeal creme pies for u Drexyl. You going straight to the store to get them.
Haha you know me Drexyl, much appreciated
Thiccc. Look at the damn forearms
You as well bro, I see yuh
That’s a big unit …. How many calories that fucker take to fuel ? Just looked at your profile 222lbs !!!! You look a lot of mass for that weight or the old stats On your profile? Either way hats of to you bro looking hench
Haha, no counting, I just eat chicken and oatmeal until I can’t every day. I am a little bit heavier, 230. Hats off right back at you Stokes, and I’m commandeering that word “hench”. Respect.
And that's coming from the thickest dude on eroids. You better run with that compliment
Oh I ran with the compliment and the that badass word “hench”
Dude I’ll never get over that oatmeal and chicken
lol, it’s not as bad as you think. I feel more comfortable at my age using oats for carbs when bulking. They are not as highly glycemic, in my body, as white rice. They may not be quite as effective for gains, but offer other health benefits that imo make them a better choice.
Ya whenever I do low glycemic carbs I can hardly gain, I kinda need the high glycemic, my metabolism is either too fast or my appetite isn’t enough for me to eat enough of the low. I’ve been just eating cereal for almost all my carbs and it’s working pretty good for me,
I'm exactly the same mate - need Heavy carbs and lots of em to gain. Trust me on this, stick a White jacket potato with everything you eat and it works a treat!!! Even half a Jacket.
What’s a jacket? Lol
Lmao, me too! I wanna know!
Lol, my metabolism definitely isn’t all too speedy. Also, agreed, it is hard to smash a shit ton of whole grains. That’s why I use the oat flour and just drink it. Surrounding my workouts, I use maltodextrin, because the oats would never get there in time. Using cereal for fuel makes sense to me. You’re probably getting a nice blend of carbs with different release times. The best diet is the one that you can stick to
@23Sparta @Rosschestzip my metabolism is fast. Some folks say a fast metabolism is a good thing but I agree partially. It makes it kinda harder to put on bulk in my opinion. I do exactly what you mentioned 23sparta. I'm not a big eater but I just do what works for me. Some guys can eat like no one's business. Wish I had their appetite.
I would’ve killed for my metabolism now back when I was younger, like my teens and early 20s. I used to be heavy and not in a good way and then one day it just started melting off. Especially now on hgh, it really does make gaining bulk hard. It also kills my wallet on food lmao. It definitely has its pros and cons.
Damn it! So you're saying GH will only make my situation worse lol. Yeah I mean it's a blessing and a curse. But hey it could be alot worse.
Definitely bro, it’s there for everyone, you just have to crack your own code. A lot of trial and error it took to know what I know about myself, and there’s never an end in sight
My appetite is ok, many for me, it’s lots of small meals, and drinking the oat four for carbs has made a difference
Cracking your own code...never heard that but I love that saying....sooo true. I drink some meals and at times I relied too much on drinks. Nothing beats food when you have an appetite my man..nothing. Especially during breakfast
Definitely a balance and yeah…. nothing beats real food. lol, my second cycle I pretty much drank ALL my food and didn’t use an AI. When I did bloods I had the E2 of an ovulating woman mid-cycle. Estrogen balloon is an understatement. I couldn’t even make a fist, but damn I was strong.
Damn all that e2 huh? I've never used an ai man. Felt it wasn't needed. But now as we get older it's probably easier to convert so I keep primo around.
Absolutely. They didn’t even have AI’s back in the golden era. You can definitely design a great cycle that doesn’t need one and those dudes did have primo. I like lots of test, and I do use an AI to keep myself in my sweet spot. Have not been able to completely dial in primo as an AI yet. I plan to in the future
I’ve been able to do it with masteron if I stay under 6-650 with the test
I love masteron but it doesn’t have an effect on my E2. It reduces the sides but doesn’t lower the number. I was at 600mg test, 600mg mast, 37.5mg asin per week and my E2 was 58. Which is cool for me, but without the Asin, would have been much too high. Primo so far has been shown to tank my E2. I’ve used it 1:1 ratio with test and my shit came back <4 lol. I wish mast did it for me like you, cause I love the compound
I remember u told me that about Primo tanking you. I've heard that same story from others too.
Yeah, it definitely did on one E2 test. Not giving up on Primo though, I just need more experience and data to be able to use it effectively in my stack
What was your dose of primo? I find that I don't need that much for an ai affect.
700mg primo, I can’t figure out the dosages of the aromatizing compounds that I ran with it. I have the bloods but lost notes when I changed phones. That was in June of last year, before I reeled myself in and made a commitment to live this life responsibly
If it lowered all the sides does the number really matter? And isn’t higher estron good for the heart and brain, so ,couldn’t that actually be good to have a little higher number but no sides right or no?
Oh 100 percent estrogen is anabolic, cardio/neuro protective. I’ve always prescribed to the school of thought that says to treat the symptoms and not the number, when it comes to E2. With that said though, I don’t want my E2 to be at 200, even if I didn’t have sides. I believe upper end of the reference range or even 10, 20, 30 pg/ml supraphysiological is plenty of E2 to reap all the benefits. As far as if there are any health risks associated having E2 higher than that despite side effects being under control using a compound like masteron, idk. I know too much estrogen in itself, definitely has a negative impact on health. lol, vigorous Steve just dropped a masteron deep dive video today (speak of the devil) and I just turned it on. He dug through all the available research for us. Interested to see what he has to say
Anything low with e2 will affect my joints and I can't have that happening. Very integral for joint health amongst other things.
Absolutely, e2 is magic for joint health and lifting heavy
Yessir!
As with everything...including shbg or IGF carrier protein....there needs to be balance. Too many times guys want to lower their sbhg way too much and that's not good. Those carrier proteins aren't there just to be there. They have duties.
Well said bro. lol, they’re there for a reason! Balance in everything is key
He’s great! Really ahead of the times on this shit. Him and Derek I’d considered some of the top experts in the world on steriods and ancillaries and all that, at least in a bodybuilding application
100 Steve is the most knowledgeable PED guru in the public eye. I ran the same supplement stack he did on his high test only cycle and have never felt better on gear
That's true, they didn't have Ais.
But they were using a weaker ai the whole time and didn't even know it. I'm still trying to dial it in myself. I refuse to use an ai.
Exactly lol, they didn’t even know it! Crazy how those dudes intuitively put all that shit together from the gear to the training
Right! I can't get off into this era but that era....yessir! Times were simple as were people. None of that complexity we deal with today. I mean yes I appreciate the technology and advancements no doubt but there's something to be said about that era.